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Culture War Roundup for the week of June 10, 2024

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I think he’s implying that it’s premature to start making predictions about the capabilities of frontier models when all of them have been safety-tuned and RLHF-ed (read: lobotomized) so heavily.

My personal take is that this lobotomization can surely make a model perform worse, but I don’t think that our current models would be able to e.g. prove novel mathematical theorems if they hadn’t been subjected to lobotomization. Admittedly, this is largely based on intuition, and maybe I’m a bit too optimistic about the limitations of base models. But if OpenAI’s most powerful base model were capable of theorem proving or coherent multi-step reasoning, then don’t you think we’d have heard something about it by now?

Of course, maybe there’s significant incompetence and inertia even at the tops of these world-changing organizations, such that there’s low-hanging fruit to be picked (regarding testing or eliciting capabilities from these base models) that’s nevertheless rotting away untouched. But I doubt this.

My understanding is that current AI models aren't actually lobotomized very much. Most guardrails seem to be just very large and lengthy if-else brute force programming layered on top of the model's interaction. Things like, if bomb question, say no. If blanket topic mentioned, say generic thing. I guess there's a little bit one layer deeper, where non-PC responses are penalized in the training phase even if they are thoughtful, but I think this probably doesn't spill over into unrelated areas as easily. Maybe a good analogy is this is not affecting the brain itself, it's raising the kid different.

It's actually the newer research that's looking in to the possibility of doing lobotomies, like the golden gate bridge Claude thing, where they are trying to identify concepts, or something like them, which are (for lack of better vocabulary) highly correlated neural groups within the model. After locating undesirable concepts, they then brute-force excise or shrink the concepts. Or, they might expand something they like. That's actually almost literally lobotomization of the model, in that it's more of a brain surgery with imperfect information.

If the current topic is SD3, they lobotomized it at every level from excluding all "problematic" pictures of women from the training data, to hard-coded crimestop termination

Ah yes, I was referring more to LLMs. Image generation is a whole different ballgame, it seems.