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Culture War Roundup for the week of June 3, 2024

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And what maybe considered the most important part by people here is the law enforcement that while far from perfect for example both in Poland and in Russia(still much worse in the latter) does work at keeping streets safe, public transit clean and gangs non-existent.

This seems deeply incorrect to me. Warsaw (and also the rest of Poland for that matter) doesn’t have stricter policing than London, and I’ve never witnessed any police take action on litterers. The one possibility I can imagine to explain this is that maybe littering is contagious and we have few homeless who get the ball rolling. Otherwise my explanation is that Polish people are just more hightrust+ pro social than the British.

I think both anti-littering and casual-littering are highly socially enforced more than anything the government does, and also have strong status-quo reinforcing mechanisms.

More high trust and pro social than the current inhabitants of London, which of course is mostly not British.

Per the most recent census, 59.3% of the population of London were born in the United Kingdom. The vast majority of these people are British, unless you are using "British" in some non-standard way which does not reflect the laws, customs, or practices of the United Kingdom.

British (as opposed to English, Welsh, Scottish or Irish) national identity was always civic and political from when it first became a thing in the 18th century. There is a reason why "I feel more British than English" is associated with left-establishment politics and "I feel more English than British" is associated with right-populist politics - it is the only question that predicted how people voted on Brexit better than age. (See https://ukandeu.ac.uk/brexit-and-english-identity/ for poll results)

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