KingOfTheBailey
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KingOfTheBailey
14hr ago
https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/radicalizing-the-romanceless/
So am I claiming that the feminist war on “nice guys” is totally uncorrelated with the existence of the manosphere?
No. I’m saying the causal arrow goes the opposite direction from the one B’s suggesting. As usual with gender issues, this can be best explained through a story from ancient Chinese military history.
Chen Sheng was an officer serving the Qin Dynasty, famous for their draconian punishments. He was supposed to lead his army to a rendezvous point, but he got delayed by heavy rains and it became clear he was going to arrive late. The way I always hear the story told is this:
Chen turns to his friend Wu Guang and asks “What’s the penalty for being late?”
“Death,” says Wu.
“And what’s the penalty for rebellion?”
“Death,” says Wu.
“Well then…” says Chen Sheng.
And thus began the famous Dazexiang Uprising, which caused thousands of deaths and helped usher in a period of instability and chaos that resulted in the fall of the Qin Dynasty three years later.
The moral of the story is that if you are maximally mean to innocent people, then eventually bad things will happen to you. First, because you have no room to punish people any more for actually hurting you. Second, because people will figure if they’re doomed anyway, they can at least get the consolation of feeling like they’re doing you some damage on their way down.
KingOfTheBailey
2d ago
I wonder what the downstream effects will be of having all this wrongthink going into the training corpuses of these bots?
KingOfTheBailey
3d ago
However, the demand that other people refer to you with a specific designation is not really a natural right, and in fact, suppressing or compelling the speech of others is a violation of other people's rights to free speech.
And these are exactly the rights that the trans lobby is asking from legislatures, community groups, and everywhere else. The invented right to compel speech from others regardless of their interlocutors' right to free speech, and the right to force themselves into women-only spaces (including but not limited to sporting teams, change rooms, lesbian communities) over women's right to freedom of association.
In Australia, the Lesbian Action Group (a gender-critical feminist-separatist organization) is currently in the Federal Court against the Australian Human Rights Commission, appealing the AHRC's decision to deny LAG an exemption under the Sex Discrimination Act that LAG sought, to be able to hold women-only events.
The more this has gone on, the more I think the evidence points toward the activist vanguard of the trans lobby being mostly autogynephilic men for whom the primary source of "euphoria" is an ongoing need for active validation from outside that "yes, you are a real woman". Whether this is from physically intimidating smaller women into silence, getting the state involved (example: Jonathan Yaniv and his "wax my ladyballs" crusade), or participating in (and often dominating) women-only community groups and sports.
Under this lens, the fact that the licence says M and not F is a reminder, constantly carried in that person's wallet, that the validation is incomplete. That this is intolerable to that person should be obvious.
Why the quotes around biological reproductive system? Are biological reproductive systems not a well-defined, scientifically-grounded concept?
It seems obvious to me, given how well you picked apart the "masterclass in lying" sentence above it. The author is doing motte-and-bailey with punctuation: it's scare-quoted in the hope that the reader learns to flinch away from it as a fnord, but defensible as a direct quote from the regulation or statute.
KingOfTheBailey
4d ago
bemoaning that the NHL is 44% Republican
Reminds me of that ad about female homelessness ("1 in 4 homeless are women" — presumably the others are sexless automatons). Here, there's a good chance some of them are unregistered so it's not going to be 56:44 D:R split, but still. A very strong message of "you aren't allowed to have anything of your own" (or step 3 of the "you do not fit in here" cycle).
It’s been terrible to watch patriotism and sports alike both claimed and weaponized by the right. Pride in one’s nation shouldn’t inherently be tied to one political movement
Astounding that this is said so unironically after all the efforts to move sports under the rainbow flag, e.g. the Football is Gay campaign, the recent brouhaha over the superbowl, the Last Supper in Drag at the Paris Olympics, ....
KingOfTheBailey
6d ago
Guys at the bottom also have reason to defect, but rarely the capacity.
The story of Henry resonated with a lot of readers of Radicalizing the Romanceless, so I am not certain that this is the case. The top and bottom seem capable of defection for different reasons but the middle of the hierarchy get made into chumps.
KingOfTheBailey
18d ago
Perhaps they were giving a Straussian hint.
Extremely unlikely, IMHO.
KingOfTheBailey
18d ago
Don't forget Norwegian Reggaeton!
KingOfTheBailey
18d ago
We also know that Brianna Wu manufactured at least some of the "hate", because GG caught Wu forgetting to switch to a sockpuppet on the Steam forums.
KingOfTheBailey
20d ago
Men who are not attractive or useful certainly stop being read as "people" and fade into the background.
KingOfTheBailey
25d ago
But also, yes, it's just a very convenient aesthetic. They can stay at home in their parents house, talking to their friends on discord, and apply some $5 hair dye or wear a $20 cat ear headset, and instantly they're part of it. No need to buy expensive concert tickets, or name-brand clothes, or a racing car, or cocaine or anything like that.
Reminds me of the discussions about vsco a couple of years ago. Identity made cheaper and easier to purchase than ever before.
KingOfTheBailey
1mo ago
KingOfTheBailey
1mo ago
The link in my post seems to agree:
While some comparisons with Red Dawn can be made, there are some significant differences to the story, such as its focus on Australia, character development and the more realistic story of young people surviving in a war zone. I always felt that the idea that Australia, with its relatively small population and relative isolation from Europe and America, could be invaded and completely conquered in such a short period is a lot more realistic than similar events occurring in America.
KingOfTheBailey
1mo ago
Don't know about global penetration, but John Marsden's Tomorrow Series was pretty big in Australian schools. There was enough of a gap between installments that people got hyped for the new ones but I doubt it was anywhere near as big as Harry Potter. Also AFAICT it didn't really make much of a dent outside Australia and maybe New Zealand.
KingOfTheBailey
1mo ago
no one outside of comics fans recognised
Didn't he get a run in one of those 90's animated shows?
KingOfTheBailey
2mo ago
alphaize the betas vs. betaize the alphas
C.S. Lewis addresses a similar dilemma in The Necessity of Chivalry:
The medieval ideal brought together two things which have no natural tendency to gravitate towards one another. It brought them together for that very reason. It taught humility and forbearance to the great warrior because everyone knew by experience how much he usually needed that lesson. It demanded valour of the urbane and modest man because everyone knew that he was as likely as not to be a milksop.
What, then, is the ideal that can bring both types of incomplete men together?
KingOfTheBailey
2mo ago
Currently I'm reading an excellent memoir by a bisexual, Jewish, female software engineer, and you get none of the drivel that would be put to the page today.
Can you name it? This sounds interesting.
KingOfTheBailey
2mo ago
The popularity of Replika et al makes me worry your final claim is less secure than you might think.
KingOfTheBailey
2mo ago
I think being mentally off is the cause of both the systems engineering skill and the trans.
KingOfTheBailey
2mo ago
If most women out-earn men, and women have a well-documented desire to only date men who earn more than them, how do we expect anyone to form relationships and start families?
KingOfTheBailey
2mo ago
Are they, though? It seems like Rust has more of 'em than many other languages and they're at every level from solo projects to people involved with the foundation.
KingOfTheBailey
2mo ago
Yeah as MUD users go I'm pretty normie. Played the Iron Realms MUDs on and off over the years. Building zones and implementing servers were more interesting than playing, for a while, but eventually I stopped tinkering too.
Much as I hate the endless wave of AI slop, it's almost a shame the text-only LLM era didn't stretch for longer than it did. If we hadn't got image generation as soon as we did, we might have seen a mini-renaissance of LLM-boosted MUDding.
KingOfTheBailey
2mo ago
An Old Town stabbing case ended in defeat for Multnomah County prosecutors once jurors learned the wounded man had been videoed uttering a racist slur in the struggle’s aftermath.
So the jury accepted that saying a slur can justifiably provoke aggression backwards in time? Incredible.
I believe that the ugliness forced on us everywhere we turn (architecture, modern "art", etc.) is deliberately done in an attempt to break us, using the method C.S. Lewis wrote about in That Hideous Strength. The extreme version in the Cheka Vallmajor cannot yet be fully replicated in public, but already we have seats that we can't sit on, public spaces that intentionally play unappealing music to get people to move along, and the various other elements of "hostile architecture" made by people who hate us and try to break us. (As always, the sensible solution — imprison/institutionalize/rehouse the people that make "hostile architecture" "necessary" — remains steadfastly untried.)
KingOfTheBailey
2mo ago
Probably because the "E-Meter" (aka "electropsychometer", "Hubbard Electrometer") is used in Scientology's "auditing" process.
Yes. By the end of it, when I'd managed to pull my head out of my ass and shake off the harmful memes from both the feminists and the redpillers. Before I started dating the girl who I'm hopefully going to marry, my final dates were "that was a good time, you're really interesting but you're not for me. I genuinely wish you the best."
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