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Be more specific about what you take from the comment you're replying to?

Because if I take your comment literally... "a commenter on TheMotte used the word "incel" in relation to a character played by Brad Pitt [note - not Brad Pitt himself], and from this we see that the word "incel" is meaningless" seems difficult to justify.

Those who are steadfast in their principles do not bother justifying it; principle stands on its own two feet.

I think this is somewhere between exaggerated and false. I think few people and fewer corporations are steadfast in their principles. But I predict that those that justify their principles are more likely to be steadfast than those that don't.

Like, I can imagine a company just telling its critics "fuck you, we're doing this whether you like it or not". And I can imagine a company telling its critics "here's what we're doing and here's why". And I can imagine a company that hasn't said either of those things yet, but may or may not in future.

And I can imagine any of those companies capitulating, and stopping doing the thing. But I think the first and second companies are both less likely to capitulate than the third. It may be that the first is less likely to capitulate than the second, or vice versa. But if we're talking about the difference between "justifying one's principles" and "not justifying one's principles", then I think we have to take companies like the third into account. And when you talk about "the moment Cloudflare started defending its actions", you're talking about them swapping from being the third type of company to the second.

If you're going to wait to move until after admins ban the subreddit, do you have a plan for how to tell people where to go?

I suppose it would be possible to have an announcement in advance "we expect to be banned at some point, go here when that happens". That feels less likely to succeed to me than an announcement "we're moving now, go here now".

I haven't looked at the codebase, but if it's not clean now I think the default is it does not become clean. If it's not secure now I think the default is it does not become secure. Having good programmers on board makes non-default results slightly more accessible, but doesn't make them default.