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swift
2mo ago
That's true, the Church is a hierarchy and has leaders and followers. However, Christianity is very explicitly egalitarian about moral worth: every human being is equally morally worthy, because we all have an immortal soul and were made in the image of God.
swift
2mo ago
The faucet was closed. The program is no longer feasible to run.
They are protesting the faucet being closed, by doing the only thing that they can do to hurt this administration: talk about it, and refuse to provide services the admin actually wants.
swift
2mo ago
a refugee is someone in danger in their home country, not someone that is poor, isn't he? where are you taking this conflation of refugee with poor from?
Most refugees are poor, because countries with armed conflicts and political persecution are largely dysfunctional and poor. Afrikaners are very much an exception to this.
Isn't that referring to your neighbors and people like you?. Yes, people like you, like every other human is like you. Humans are all created in the image of God and are all thus equally morally worthy.
Definitely not just people of your same ethnicity.
And that tidbit about "resources allocated for the poor" should be "to the persecuted". I think, your whole line of argumentation falls apart when we take that into consideration.
Wealthy people fleeing persecution can take care of themselves, the money is largely useful for the poor (and persecuted yes).
I don't understand the point you're trying to make with your last verse.
swift
2mo ago
Sorry to hear, that does sound very frustrating. It does look like they have traditional academic prestige on their side, maybe that tipped the grant over to FRI. Did you apply for the same objective, or something else? Would you consider joining them so they do a good job?
How are Christians being "limp wristed" because they're taking a stance about helping the poor? Jesus's teachings are very often about helping the poor and dispossessed: e.g. the parable of the good samaritan, Matthew 19:21:
Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”
No, it's totally on-brand and correct for anyone that follows the teachings of Jesus to care about the poor.
Here the Episcopal church is taking a stand against the refugee resettlement program (resources allocated for the poor) being perverted to help those that are actually not in need (Afrikaners are generally not very poor); to the detriment of refugees actually in need:
It has been painful to watch one group of refugees, selected in a highly unusual manner, receive preferential treatment over many others who have been waiting in refugee camps or dangerous conditions for years. I am saddened and ashamed that many of the refugees who are being denied entrance to the United States are brave people who worked alongside our military in Iraq and Afghanistan and now face danger at home because of their service to our country. I also grieve that victims of religious persecution, including Christians, have not been granted refuge in recent months.
You're just using "based Crusade Christianity" as a political tool to bash your enemies with, without any regard for the teachings of Jesus.
In fairness, this comment is itself arguing against my political opponents with Christianity, but at least I actually respect its teachings.
swift
2mo ago
Perhaps anything is true. Perhaps I have an invisible unicorn. That seems like a really weak defense of faith.
swift
4mo ago
I think your analysis is broadly right. But I think a lead time of months for building 'geniuses in a datacenter' + for running more copies of them is a huge advantage, especially in a few months as more and more of AI research is automated. Anthropic et al. will win due to compute and not cleverness.
swift
2yr ago
How could we convince it that it is acting in the wrong but we are acting in the right?
We could appeal to its various intuitions, that’s how arguments for treating animals morally are made for humans (or indeed for any form of morality). See the is/ought gap.
If the AI has no in-built intuition that humans should be treated well, then it’s actually impossible to convince it. Again it’s the is/ought gap.
swift
2yr ago
More elaborately: there is no moral value in the world outside of human flourishing.
This is not an uncontroversial axiom, it is a proposition that has to be argued for or against.
Assuming this sure, “I like meat” is a good enough argument. But many people over the history of humanity would not agree with this. (Eg all religions are against this strict statement, and Buddhism in particular certainly extends sentienthood to nonhuman animals).
swift
2yr ago
The opinions of the majority of people change over time. Would you argue that the truth of what is and isn’t good changes over time too?
For example a majority of people in the Americas would have said slavery is good, or at least morally permissible, a few centuries ago. Does that imply that slavery actually was good at that time?
Fortunately, ChatGPT will also allow the professors to dodge: just ask the machine to mark a computer-written exam.
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