jkf
17d ago
I heard people sometimes leave pallets of bricks just lying around commercial areas...
jkf
17d ago
It's a problem if the ballots are fake yes, it should not be a problem if they are real.
The problem is independent of whether the ballots are real or not -- I think that they probably are in this case! (if only because the NDP is not competent to do fraud)
It's still a problem, in that "make your election look exactly like it was stolen" is probably not a good move for anyone who isn't actively in favour of armed rebellion? (I am not -- not yet at least -- but I seriously doubt this is something the people at Elections BC are after?)
So Postal ballots WILL be added to the count late.
I suggest that you not do that, for starters -- all ballots are DUE by election day, postmark or not -- so there are no ballots not in your possession whenever you begin counting.
Then you report the number of ballots you have in your possession, before you start counting. (I don't think the law says you can't, like count the ballots ahead of time? It's just that you can't open & tally them? If not, determine how many there are before you start opening any -- report this number)
Then you, like -- count the ballots. All at the same time, not saving the postal ones up for the middle of the night after you kick all the poll-watchers out on some pretext everyone has gotten tired and gone home totally of their own accord -- just mix the postal boxes in with the in person ones at the counting location at which they were received.
This seems easy?
jkf
17d ago
Thread sliding?
"Bad on purpose (by 4chan standards!) to make you click", pushing other threads off the front page.
Well in 2020 probably because Trump was saying mail in ballots couldn't be trusted. He created a partisan difference.
Unlikely that a significant number of BC residents were taking Trump's advice on this matter -- we are even letting people vote by phone starting this year Because Democracy.
It is either a weird shift in voter behaviour (for which I'd lukewarmly accept 'permanent covid brainfuck') or somebody is stuffing ballot boxes in a plausibly deniable way. (which I have no way of ruling out, other than 'just trust me bro', which is approximately what's on offer)
But it also isn't necessarily a problem.
Election Day (tuesday): conservative-guy leads by 100 (out of like 15k) votes, we have 500 not-in-person ballots left to count which we will get around to next Sunday
Friday: oops, actually now we have 650 ballots to count, TTFN :)
Sunday afternoon: wow, left-guy pulled 66% of these totally-secure ballots that people literally phoned-in and we filled out ourselves -- left-guy wins by 20 votes, left-party now has a single-seat majority
This is absolutely a problem man -- if this happens today it's treading awfully close to a "Jan 6 but for-reals this time" problem.
jkf
17d ago
"Left-wing antifa riots in response to Harris win" was not on my bingo card...
No, what I'm saying is that this is not a partisan issue -- there's a bipartisan tradition of dangerous morons trying to tweak the system in ways that they think that will benefit them, and this should be looked down on by anyone who's not an ideological hack. (or just thinks that said morons are too incompetent to rig things effectively, if one is a PA republican I guess)
The important issue on the skewed late vote is not that it exists, it's why does it exist -- there's no particular reason it should be to the left, indeed AIR it used to be considered more likely to be to the right due to age distributions and old people not liking to leave the house.
The BC (Canada) election just had ridings flip due to ~65% left drops a week late, in ridings that were within 100 votes of 50/50 otherwise -- I'm lukewarm on both the 'people are still afraid of COVID' and the 'Joe Kennedy's ghost is pulling strings' explanations -- but the fact is, if you are rigging elections you want there to be late drops you can manipulate -- I see no particular reason for this suspicion-vector not to be stamped out.
jkf
17d ago
Because in the world in which we live, for whatever reasons the late-counted votes seem to lean pretty heavily to the left -- the impact of a narrow win from the right on election day with 98% of polls reporting or whatever shifting to a narrow Kamala victory a week later on election confidence would be quite profound I think, especially in PA.
Do you want civil war national strife? This is how you get national strife.
(Not sure why you are so supportive of PA Republicans -- maybe they have undesirable goals here?)
jkf
18d ago
They are really good with bacon & cheese especially -- but yeah, I will actually eat those black bean ones if we have some leftover.
jkf
18d ago
The part that could be 'at their discretion' would be whether to charge criminally or not -- so the cops give you a ticket for stealing which you have to pay regardless, and the prosecutor may or may not upgrade to actual charges. Ideally he would do so, but if he doesn't at least there's something. Kind of an additional level on the summary/indictable (Canada) or misdemeanor/felony (US, I think?) ladder.
jkf
19d ago
Why not do it on here?
Just, like -- post a thread and crank up the wit man -- it's free country, right?
jkf
19d ago
jkf
21d ago
Considering that this organization is literally publishing their passwords in an Excel document on the open internet, would you think that their physical security is likely to be particularly competent?
jkf
21d ago
I think I caught a 1 day site-wide ban for saying "tranny" or something on there. (actually something less offensive but along those lines I guess, because whatever it was didn't attract any attention from the local mods)
The problem was probably not so much "attracting admin attention" as "attracting the attention of people who hate you and want you and your family dead -- but failing that will report you to the reddit admins"; same difference in the end.
jkf
21d ago
Puts him in pretty good company I guess:
jkf
21d ago
Elon Musk is technically is an elite and has contributed greatly to society. Society is not going to solve difficult problems like space travel using only ordinary people. Difficult coordination problems require elites. Sometimes the public isn't always owed an explanation or it would be against the interests of national security, like the Manhattan Project.
Dollars to donuts Elon had a summer job shovelling shit or picking apples at some point -- Kamala seems to be kind of an early adopter on this sort of thing being Just Not Done for aspiring white-collar climbers, to the point where not only does she need to make up a story about working at McDonalds, McDonalds is the shittiest job she can even think of to lie about.
Trump probably never had to literally lay bricks or whatever, but based on how much he seems to enjoy hanging around with garbagemen and workers at his hotels, it's a good bet that he's done quite a bit of shit-shooting with the pointy end of his construction crews as well.
jkf
21d ago
Yes? I've seen numbers run that for somewhere in the high ten figures you could have planes spraying enough particulates to counteract any reasonable amount of added CO2 -- it's not hard, and wouldn't take long.
Now that you mention it, doesn't it usually make more sense to see whether something is actually a problem or not before taking extreme measures to correct the possibility that it might become a problem ~50 years from now?
jkf
21d ago
Treating petty offenses (at the discretion of the prosecuter I suppose) more as administrative violations would probably work -- lower the burden of proof (as with traffic tickets), then you can slap tickets on the prolific offenders and jail them when they don't pay up.
Not that anyone in a position to do this would want to, but it would be way cheaper than your idea.
jkf
22d ago
Assume that it works, why would it? It's not as though the climate has become intolerable, or will be 20 years from now?
jkf
23d ago
Strong odds that Rogan brings this up -- I expect he's pretty sympathetic to jokes not landing sometimes.
jkf
24d ago
the Everybody Votes Campaign.
About Us: Strengthening political power in communities of color through increased civic engagement.
Surely a Republican front organization!
jkf
24d ago
You could pretty easily automate a Euro "right to be forgotten" request and call it a day I guess?
jkf
24d ago
The Canadian globohomos seem to be running into a bit of a brick wall already, so it might be sooner than you think.
jkf
24d ago
My guess would be (assuming some level of competence on the part of the Trump team, I know) that they'd lean into the self-deportation -- if you crack down on illegals working/driving/transacting business in an effective way (which is theoretically possible, federally) then American Life becomes less attractive. Also it's not clear how much Trump cares about effectiveness of deportation per se -- being able to claim to have taken action and being cock-blocked by California or whatnot is probably fine with him.
I'm sure the smarties know that something (like the Blob part of VA being counted last) but Trump is currently slightly ahead there. I don't think he'll take it, but if it holds up to be anywhere near close that is a crazy polling miss.
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