gosouthyoungman
I moved to a developing country to escape the hostile, isolating culture of the US. Ask me how!
User ID: 2118
gosouthyoungman
1yr ago
Really, in 2871 transwomen still can't pass? Tragic. RIP twenty-nineth century trans^2 people.
(Sarcasm, joking, not trying to be mean okay? :)
gosouthyoungman
1yr ago
I'm curious though... in the future, what do we believe about gender and sex?
gosouthyoungman
1yr ago
I guess I'm personally resigned to the golden cage but I just want to make sure that I'm not denied my basic needs (esp sex) for some safetyist nonsense. I mean, do you think that a woke feminist or conservative Christian, if they managed to get in control of the AI, would allow us the sexual utopia that we have a right to? This is what I'm afraid of.
But I totally agree with you: humans should be free to, for example, colonize Mars even when its dangerous because the infrastructure isn't there yet. I too worry that safetyism will prevent us from taking risks, being part of the forefront of civilization, exploring the universe.
gosouthyoungman
1yr ago
How would you summarize "their" beliefs? (We might have to decide who we mean by "their".)
I wonder if Tinder isn't so bad but gets blamed for the dysfunctional Western dating market. In the poor country where I am living, I use Tinder and another local app and I get dozens of likes and multiple messages per day. (This is coming from someone who got maybe one fat-chick like per day in America. BTW this is an experiment you can do yourself, if you are willing to pay for Tinder gold or do some VPN shenanigans to spoof your location. Try setting your location to Manila, PH and see how much attention you get.)
gosouthyoungman
1yr ago
You sound like the exact kind of person I'm trying to wake up with my statements. You want to put humanity in shackles because you are afraid that freedom might be boring? You want to force me to spend eternity shackled to my psychological abusers because you're worried that I might not use my time in the most aesthetic way? No one is forcing you to play open world video games, but you want me to be forced to play a closed world video game. Why?
(Also most people are way more pleasant than your example)
Not in America, at least never to me. (Okay maybe that's not entirely true, but as feminists have taught me, you have to exaggerate social harms for other people to take them seriously.)
I've thought a lot about this, and the need for social validation is a problem if the person refuses to accept the AI as 'real'. Some people will simply decide that AIs are real enough, but others will still seek validation from humans. This second group is where the moral busybodies live, and that community will evaporatively cool until it is such a toxic cesspit that no real validation is possible. Some people will still compulsively seek it, but most people will just find some way to convince themselves that the validation from the AI is legitimate.
Part of my point with this line of argument is to try to wake up the moral busybodies to how they are destroying society. These people are the ones who don't want a world where everyone is isolated into their own bubbles, but that is exactly what they are creating with their efforts.
gosouthyoungman
1yr ago
A matchmaking AI would be amazing! But will the moral busybodies allow me to train my AI to deselect people who hate me? I'd like to eliminate from my life anyone who believes that sexual harassment is a real problem.
The want to force us to spend eternity with people who hate us and will psychologically abuse us. They'd rather us dead than allow us to escape. I know that's extreme but that's how I see it.
gosouthyoungman
1yr ago
I'd rather express my sadism through BDSM, personally. But will the busybodies allow us to have BDSM or even insult eachother?
gosouthyoungman
1yr ago
It is my belief that after the AI takeover, there will be increasingly less human-to-human interaction. This is partially because interacting with AI will be much preferable in every way, but it is also because safetyism will become ever more powerful. Any time two humans interact, there is the potential for someone to be harmed, at least emotionally. With no economic woes and nothing to do, moral busybodies will spend their time interfering with how other people spend their time, until the point where interacting with another human is so morally fraught and alienating that there is no point. Think about it, who would you rather spend time with: an AI who will do whatever you want and be whatever you want, anytime, or a grumpy human on her own schedule who wants to complain about someone who said "hi" to her without her consent? The choice seems obvious to me.
gosouthyoungman
1yr ago
You obviously haven't heard of the incel-to-trans pipeline. For both groups you seem to argue that the people who are/would be the most grass-is-greener aren't the ones who end up trans, but I just plain disagree. In particular for FtMs:
short-hair-and-guy's-clothes-enby types
is there another type?
gosouthyoungman
1yr ago
I'd like to hear your response to this simpler counter-theory for the entire trans phenomenon (at least post-2014): Both MTFs and FTMs believe (at least subconsciously) that the opposite sex has better lives. MTFs believe that women get more love, attention and affection, while FTMs believe that men get more respect and earn more money.
gosouthyoungman
1yr ago
Someone on Twitter asked an interesting question, which was essentially, why is this topic so fraught? And the best answer I can give, is that it's the first topic (maybe) to be "born" in the forge of Postmodernism and Critical models of power at a popular level. Sure, they existed in academia before this, but I do think there was this divide between these ways of thinking and a much more transactional, retail, boots on the ground level productive politics. Frankly, it's possible that the other candidate for the "First topic" is COVID, and I do think you see a lot of the same patterns in that debate as well.
Please help me understand this paragraph, because I'm having trouble. By "this topic" I assume you mean either trans issues generally or something more specific. If this topic was "born", what is it's "birthday"? 2020? 2014? 1969? Is the birthday when the public first becomes generally aware of the issue? How long has the "forge of Postmodernism and Critical models of power at a popular level" been operating? 2020, 2016, 2014...? What other topics might qualify as being a "first topic"? Russiagate? Gamergate? Brexit? Ukraine War?
I only ask these questions because it sounds like you have an interesting model, but I can't put the puzzle pieces together in my head.
gosouthyoungman
1yr ago
I'm sorry, the referrals to a gender clinic go DOWN at 18? That's very surprising to me. What about all the closested trans people with conservative parents that are finally able to make their own choices when they turn 18? Shouldn't it go up?
gosouthyoungman
1yr ago
Underrated answer. A girl I've been dating asked me, "who will take care of you [when you are a childless old man]?" and it really took me aback. I've never imagined that having a child would actually be an economic advantage to me, but she probably never imagined that a child would be such an economic burden, because in a poor country, children are not a burden.
gosouthyoungman
1yr ago
If China can't raise it's fertility, what hope does a democracy have?
gosouthyoungman
1yr ago
Where are all these college educated lonely women? I've been in the upper-middle urban class my whole life and I've never been in a space where there was an abundance of lonely women (Edit: until I moved to a developing country). I think this is a myth.
gosouthyoungman
1yr ago
On the whole I'd rather be immoral than go extinct.
gosouthyoungman
1yr ago
Honestly, it seems to me that conservatives and straight white men have been turning the other cheek for 60+ years now and it's only gotten us into this hell. Maybe time for some stronger tactics?
gosouthyoungman
1yr ago
I had extricated myself from the abusive relationship, but [others] remained captive.
This is exactly how I feel about my pet victim group. But when one is up against the reigning ideology of your society, you mostly have to keep your mouth shut. Very few people have the courage to be heroes, and most people who do have that kind of courage just get destroyed when they make a move.
gosouthyoungman
1yr ago
I wonder if it's because balloons are inherently funny, chemical spills are not very funny (although there was a funny disaster involving molasses once...), UFOs are mysterious, there is the international conflict angle, Ohio is the worst state... basically, the balloon story is memeworthy, the chemical spill is not.
gosouthyoungman
1yr ago
I was making a childish pun about the pronunciation of the name Djibouti.
gosouthyoungman
1yr ago
It makes sense that Djibouti would have a high fertility.
This is a mindset that creates misery. You cannot be dependent on what other people think about you.
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