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2mo ago
Can someone steelman humor to me?
I’m beginning to wonder if humor is actually bad for us. Important qualification: in-person humor exchanged between friends is amazing for connection and friendship, and so in this capacity it is instrumental toward a good thing (bonds and brotherhoods). But this is no longer the dominant form of humor. The dominant form of humor is now worthless, distracting, and frankly retarded stuff on social media. This humor serves no instrumental purpose. It’s not the teacher whose sense of humor enhances your comfort and learning. It’s not a friend whose sense of humor bonds guys together. It’s not Scott’s wordplay that makes his ideas memorable. It’s just cheap pleasure. And I think it distracts people from taking life seriously.
Have you ever been in a serious conversation where someone keeps making jokes, and it’s impossible to obtain the same seriousness again? To me that’s the Worst Thing Ever, and I think this mental state is how many people are living because humor has penetrated every social media platform. The way many friends now stay in touch is sharing an instagram reel or a meme. But this is all occurring online, so rather than reinforcing friendship it reinforces (anti)social media consumption.
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2mo ago
The video is clipped at 0:13, so literally anything could have happened in that indeterminate length of time. Perhaps he decided to randomly attack that man, or perhaps the man said something to instigate the fight. It is almost certainly the case that the Israeli activists have the full footage, and it may be telling that it has not been published. There’s another clipping at 0:40 to 0:41. The new clipping at 0:41 isn’t merely a new angle but occurs at a later chronological point, because at 0:40 the altercation ends with the Palestinian upright and at 0:41 it ends with him on the ground post-gunshot. So there are two critical moments that have been removed from our video.
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2mo ago
Not everything is on that video. You do not see if fighting words were exchanged prior to the event. The beginning of the fight is shown, then clipped with the moment he was shot. If fighting words were exchanged before the tackle or if the man re-initiated the brawl after a moment of peace then he wouldn’t have a legitimate use of force (implying it would otherwise be warranted), I’m pretty sure.
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2mo ago
People don’t automatically or naturally do what is best for them. For instance, the “natural” way that people often study is by rereading or highlighting. But these are unequivocally the poorest ways of learning according to many studies. By many I mean, I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s 5000 studies related to this. Or if you consider exercise science, people don’t automatically rest or exercise in the optimal way. It’s not intuitive that active rest would be superior than inactive rest. It’s not intuitive that HIIT would be so efficient. For nutrition, we had no idea the optimal way to eat to retain vitamins, cooking in lead and so on, or overcooking vegetables and throwing out the broths.
I think the reason people study in open areas and with a show in the background is because it makes it fun. Quiet studying may be too boring for someone to do all the time.
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2mo ago
That political solution will not occur unless there is already a cultural solution in place. In order to instantiate an effective regulatory body for social media, you need people to lobby for it; in order to get people to lobby for it, you need cultural organizations that create awareness. Next, you need to generate enough billions of dollars that your lobbying is greater than Meta et al. Why shouldn’t Meta, with a profit of $40b, spend all of that profit and more on lobbying against your solution? They will then selectively show you influencers who are against regulation on all your social media feeds.
Luckily there’s another way to regulate social media. Establish a tight-knit culture and create your own social media. Like how churches have always created their own media and social organizations against secular culture. It doesn’t have to be advanced. It would take a weekend to make an early MySpace clone. Now you have your own social media. Defectors who attempt to continue using mainstream social media are excommunicated and shunned.
This “out there” solution of crafting microcultures is the only way forward as capitalism becomes more and more intent on degrading human life quality. We will now always have gambling and loot crate mechanics because gambling companies are now able to lobby. We will always have marijuana because marijuana dispensaries can lobby. It is just going to get worse and worse. Nothing will be the same. You won’t be able to beat them in a lobby-off, but you will be able to beat them by banning them from your community, because at the end of the day there will always be reasonable people who listen to other reasonable people and are persuaded by reasonable arguments — and when these people form a community with rules then they will have a huge advantage over Consumer-Americans.
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2mo ago
In regards to meaningful insights: that we unconsciously tend to agree more with a speaker the more attractive they are; optimizing learning using spaced repetition and retrieval practice; that we tend to remember the beginning and end of experiences; the whole “flow” literature about which activities produce the most happiness.
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2mo ago
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I once believed that political solutions to problems are viable, and now I believe that they are not, and that you need cultural solutions first in order to meaningfully affect the political
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I once believed literature mattered, but upon inspecting the type of people who are into literature versus who are not, I no longer believe it is valuable. “Literature” is surprisingly new to civilization anyway.
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I love dogs, but dog culture should be ended, and anthropomorphism should be banned from kids entertainment. Kids should be learning to understand humans and their variegated expressions, so that they can understand themselves and adapt to the social world in front of them. They should not be bonding with animals to a significant degree.
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I once thought IQ was the be-all-end-all but now I think there are other qualities which are as important but less easy to measure.
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2mo ago
Do you mean pop psychology? Almost every business in the world uses psychology to recruit and retain customers. There’s probably 20,000 publications in psychology a year, if you ignore pop psychology there’s tons of meaningful insights.
I wonder what the actual Jewish representation is. Even back in 2014 I remember Jewish friends deciding to omit “Jewish” on their competitive applications, a practice which was apparently common knowledge disseminated via Jewish summer camp social networks. Is there really not a public list of Harvard graduates that we can examine? If the only gauge of Jewish enrollment is Halal Org or Chabad Org then they are undercounting the large number of non-practicing Jewish Americans.
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2mo ago
Do you eat raw spleen? Which raw organ do you eat for vitamin c
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2mo ago
he was cooperating
The officers are entitled to ask you to keep your window down for communication and safety. They asked him a number of times and explained the reason. This is easy to abide by and he failed to do it. You should watch the video. All of this is clear with no ambiguity. “Keep your window down” -> “don’t tell me what to do”.
The officer had no reason to escalate, drag him down and cuff him with the aggressiveness that they did
You are wrong, as they did have a reason, which is his failure to follow simple commands repeatedly, like literally 10x in a row.
The stats for police officers shot from a McLaren is zero
This is a category fallacy. McClaren selects for the non-criminal because the high end of wealth selects for the non-criminal. But Tyreek Hill earned his wealth anomalously, as the 1% of millionaires who are professional athletes (probably 0.5% of 8figs are professional athletes). Indeed, he already has a criminal record which includes assaults. Tyreek Hill is not the normative member of McClaren drivers, the relevant category he belongs to is “black wide receivers in NFL” — before I look it up, would you kindly tell me if you think this category commits more crimes or fewer crimes than the average American?
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2mo ago
Football player Tyreek Hill was arrested the other day during a traffic stop. Because he refused to keep his tinted windows rolled down for the officers, they commanded him to get out of the vehicle. Because he refused to get out of the vehicle, the officers forced him to the ground for a detainment. In Florida, officers have the right to command you to keep the window low enough for (1) communication and (2) officer safety. This appears to be a universally agreed upon fact before this event, as for instance in a video by a criminal defense attorney specifically about a Floridian just two weeks ago, and in legal advice proffered online just a month ago.
Let us assume that the officers knew who Tyrell Hill was, which isn’t a given because of the arresting officer’s thick Latino accent. They would have every reason to treat him with precaution because of his domestic violence and assault record, meaning that a concern for officer safety is legitimate despite the subject’s fame. And really, even thinking about a subject’s level of fame before enacting a law or police procedure should make us recoil. We don’t want to do that, right? We should treat everyone the same. The typical talking heads, of course, are calling this police brutality.
I am interested in how this scene would be treated if the subject were of a different appearance and nature. Tyreek, a 1%er super-wealthy person of privilege, is extremely rude to a working class minority police officer. Let’s imagine some white CEO stammering to the minority police officer, “don’t knock on my window… I’m going to be late… don’t tell me what to do!”, while ignoring the officer’s requests. We would all agree that this behavior is unacceptable. We would rightfully delight in his retribution, being placed on the ground in subservience to the Law. The comments would read like, “white man realizes the law applies to him”. But Tyreek, a (former) criminal, has a social privilege that would never be afforded to a white CEO: he is a star athlete and the public implicitly expects less of him because of his genetic nature. I can understand the public behaving like the public, but it’s annoying to see media figures excusing the behavior, too.
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2mo ago
How is Jordan Peterson still standing without eating vegetables or fruit?
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2mo ago
You have the oppprtunity to give each person on earth the same advice and rules. You wish to improve the world as much as possible. What would be your universal set of advice and/or rules which ensure the most Good? Presume that each person will listen intently, not magically assent and obey immediately.
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2mo ago
Wealth is a Good only insofar as it is instrumental toward happiness. When we consider America’s increased wealth we must also consider the difference in lifestyle between today and the past. How are the social stressors? How is nature exposure different? How is family life different? How different is work? How different are inculcated values? Forestry, agriculture, and logging industry workers report superior happiness, superior meaning, and lower stress than finance and insurance workers, which is a blow to the “wealth and happiness are linear across epochs” hypothesis. This difference is probably just due to exposure to the natural environment, as being near forests and mountains and bodies of water are associated with greater life satisfaction. But consider all the effects this has… one hundred and thirty years ago, the median American walked on dirt roads more often, under a canopy of trees, had more contact with horses and livestock, more likely worked in a natural environment. Even just examining one dimension here — the environment — and ignoring the multitude of social and nutritional differences, we should be suspicious of pronouncing a preference for one time period.
Born in a homestead dugout. And you don't want to have a kid because of a car seat?!
Well, the homestead dugout woman was an expert at being a mother through social acculturation. Her daily tasks did not involve cognitive stress or constant multitasking. She probably did not spend 10 hours of her adolescence sitting in a chair in an academic rat race. She did not have to learn how to navigate a stressful high-speed husk of metal to pick up groceries. Everyone she met on the daily was likely the same religion and ancestry, which reduced stress. She probably gardened. I can see how she would have an easier time being a mother just like the Afghani women in wartime Afghanistan had no problem being mothers.
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2mo ago
McConnell did not find his wife in the backwaters of rural China. They met when she was working a high-level government position. Her father founded a shipping company and she received a degree from Harvard. If anything their relationship might be dysgenic for her. It is not simply that Jeb’s wife is Mexican that makes it dysgenic (after all, plenty of top tier Mexicans), but where in Mexico he located her and how. There was zero selection going on for intelligence and so we can reasonably assume a dysgenic effect (like, if these pairings occurred 100 times, for sure it would be dysgenic on the whole, though there could be a few times where it is non-dysgenic out of chance). The implicit point is that we receive millions upon millions of latin Americans just like Jeb’s wife who will be marrying higher quality Americans and eventually alter the gene pool. You need to be extremely racist and/or track family trees to prevent a deleterious IQ effect as an American, and a lot of Americans will simply select for perceived attractiveness over IQ.
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2mo ago
It’s possible that the rural Mexican woman that Jeb met as a 17yo is actually a genius. It’s incredibly unlikely, given the information we know about her and the fact that Jeb selected her from a low number of women in the exact town he was performing charity work in. We can make reasonable assumptions here. As /u/AhhhTheFrench fails to point out, Jeb was honor roll at a prestigious high school, magna cum laude at Yale, then became enormously wealthy as partner of a top real estate firm. His wife’s bio details are just the basic “wife of politician” charity stuff.
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2mo ago
Developmentally delayed bildungsroman.
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2mo ago
What would you call them?
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Jeb is the son of an elite American political dynasty. His wife is the daughter of a rural Mexican migrant worker he met doing charity work at 17. This is dysgenic if you care about intelligence and eugenic if you favor cute latinas.
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2mo ago
Is there any comedy more implicitly moralistic than Napoleon Dynamite? The humble hard-working Napoleon finds esteem in his dance performance, with his class looking past his oddities; the pure of heart Pedro becomes president of the class; the protagonist finds innocent love; his deficient-in-character brother finds a partner which balances his flaws. Maybe Nacho Libre?
Of course, I don’t disagree. But FLDS is 6k unsophisticated people in the middle of nowhere, and the Hasidic community in Jersey/NY is perhaps ~250k quite sophisticated people who have ties of advocacy to a larger community of fellow travelers. I just looked it up and I see I have been misusing the term “block vote” (I wonder if it morphed into a different colloquial meaning around here) but the Hasidic leaders effectively tell their members who to vote for.
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2mo ago
I’m pretty sure Hasidim began as a folk religion among the poorer rural Eastern European Jews. It was detested by the leading educated Rabbis. I don’t think it is correct to say that they are the same genetic stock of a typical Ashkenazi Jew. Assimilated Ashkenazi Jews came from intelligent rabbinical-finance families, whereas many of the starting Hasidic families were the poorest and least educated Jews.
smart people marry other smart people and have smart children
Maybe 80% of the time, which means every generation they will be 20% worse off
Non-socialized non-instrumental uses of humor, so most humor consumption — any kind of commercial humor, whether standup or online humor.
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