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WhiningCoil
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WhiningCoil
15d ago
I mean, there will almost certainly be mass violence. Democrats are just better about having plausible deniability, like claiming "Antifa is just an idea". Or "Fiery but mostly peaceful protest."
WhiningCoil
15d ago
Auto correct on my phone has failed me once again.
I think a lot of mothers voted for Trump. Schools secretly transitioning children and giving them pornography is radicalizing a lot of women. Boys in girls sports to a degree as well. Shitty dehumanizing language like "chest feeder" and "birthing person" too. Watching my wife put out feelers with other moms at the park, slowly building a repour rapport, until they were having 3 hour long conversations on the phone about this shit, validating each other that they weren't crazy has been an experience.
WhiningCoil
15d ago
I don't think you "missed" anything. All our sense making organs have been purposely smashed to bits, and it's impossible to tell who's telling the truth anymore. The experts burn their trust, and then invent a machine to burn things that have already been burned so they can do it again next year. Meanwhile they point mockingly at the "wisdom of crowds" X seems to enable, or point to all the other heavily FBI/CIA influenced social media networks as the "normal" ones that should be representative. For you to have seen this coming would have required these people to stop lying about everything systematically.
I've seen this refrain over and over that Putin's misinformation playbook isn't to flood the zone with one big lie, but a million contradictory lies so that finding truth is like finding a needing in a haystack. But I'd say our intelligence services have learned that trick pretty well themselves. I'm not, or wasn't at least, a religious man, but I can only thank god that we had a seemingly free and fair election that showed the Emperor was naked once again.
WhiningCoil
15d ago
I hope Trump is more shameless about shit canning people in the executive working against him. Everyone was ready to pop off if he fired people at the DOJ investigating him just like Nixon did. This time around, he'd be a chump not to do it given he was ultimately totally vindicated last time around, and there is zero pretense of things being anything other than a fishing expedition this time around. The MSM will bleat about it, but the massive rightward shift of every demographic I think finally shows their power is broken. Maybe they'll recover, but while Trump has mastery he needs to use it to the fullest extent possible.
WhiningCoil
15d ago
Different.
There are two things. One, Trump was president, and it's in his (poorly exercised) authority to do as he wishes with classified information. Second, this was not the systematic exfiltration of all his classified work material to an unclassified office. It was lazy, haphazard, stupid exfiltration of some of his work material. Why does this matter? Clinton did it methodically and exclusively in clear violate of the law as secretary of state, with the specific intent of giving FOIA the run around. Trump did it because he got kicked out of the Whitehouse and shit had to go somewhere.
Bonus third reason was that so many Presidents and Vice Presidents from the last 10 years also got caught with some classified information in their unclassified offices.
I hate to be that guy but source? I simply cannot take such a just-so explanation at face value without something to substantiate it. Especially by the margins we are talking about here. 20 million votes out of 150 million cast? 13% of the electorate just checked back out? Especially when the conventional wisdom is that once you get a person to start voting, they generally keep voting. This study even says the effect is magnified in "high salient elections" which 2020 most certainly was?
Voting for the first time for a high-salience election should have a higher effect on turnout in subsequent high-salience elections
Edit: Let me put it like this. Show me the people who didn't vote this time that voted in 2020. Show me a poll, show me on the street interviews, tell me about people you know. Anything at all that points to this massive hypothetical dark matter voter that hadn't shown up at all in any of the polling this year. Nobody predicted such a steep drop off in turnout this year. It wasn't even on the radar. Don't just default to it being the only possible explanation because the alternative is unthinkable.
WhiningCoil
15d ago
But that's the thing. What if the coin is weighted, but you refuse to admit your scale is broken? Or whatever tool you'd use to detect a weighted coin.
You hear a lot about how the results of this election were in the margin of error of a lot of the polls. Not the chances of winning, but what they estimated turnout to be. In some states, especially the better polled states, that might be true. In others, the polls were dashed to pieces. I think Texas, Florida, New York and Virginia had huge polling misses, despite turning out as predicted. I saw Sagaar Enjeti last night downright gleeful that the left's project for a Purple Texas seemed utterly destroyed with how hard Latino's realigned with Trump, and how hard Ted Cruz won them in his district versus prior Cruz victories.
WhiningCoil
15d ago
I'm not saying Harris will somehow still be president. Hillary's Plan B was the Steele Dossier and miring his administration in 4 years of fake investigations and impeachments. I imagine Harris right now is organizing the deep state for 4 years of defense in depth to resist every action of a Trump admin.
Well... she's probably not organizing shit. But she's probably in the room while the adults are talking.
WhiningCoil
15d ago
She's probably busy conferring with three letter agencies about what is Plan D.
WhiningCoil
15d ago
You know, a data point that made me skeptical was a "lesson" I kept hearing from the 2022 midterms that polls over estimated Republican turnout. That was supposed to be a red wave that kind of fizzled outside of Florida. So it was hard to apply the same "It's the economy stupid", "The polls are just as wrong as 2016 and 2020" rules to them for 2024. At least for me.
WhiningCoil
15d ago
I'm tempted to throw a little money at "Trump will not be president" as a hedge against my despair in case it actually happens. Is Polymarket open to Americans?
WhiningCoil
15d ago
Like I said the fully Trump captured GOP invested heavily in proactively preventing what they believed were the avenues of voter fraud Trump has never given up on from 2020. I can't exactly take a victory lap because even I said I thought an outcome like this was weak circumstantial evidence. But maybe the GOP's heavy investment in fraud prevention carried the day. We may never know since the election only happens once, and we'll never see the counterfactual.
WhiningCoil
15d ago
I don't want it stop. Trump might have "started it" in the sense that he saw Hillary committing naked crimes no other person would have gotten away with when it came to mishandling classified information. Like, literally anybody who has ever had a clearance knows you don't systematically exfiltrate your classified work materials home. And most of us had to take additional training after that happened about how no, no matter what you hear in the news, you are not allowed to do that and you can go to jail.
Trumps alleged crimes are more.... creative. Decades old sketchy sex stories, bizarre process crimes with no apparent victim, novel legal theories applied for the first time ever in history. He got nailed on shit you can have reasonable confidence almost every billionaire or politician has probably done, and/or things you are reasonably confident didn't actually happen.
I'd say he has a moral obligation to at least try to jail the corrupt government officials that weaponized the government against him.
WhiningCoil
15d ago
I'm pretty sure Pelosi will be running the party from the grave at this point.
WhiningCoil
16d ago
Yeah, it might help some with the popular vote. Didn't make a dent in local politics though sadly.
WhiningCoil
16d ago
Why would they care? This is winner take all. I'm seeing scattered reports of trucks pull up with 100,000's of ballots in Philly and Detroit. There will always be a legion of empty suits claiming this is all totally normal and you are all the bad things if you ask questions.
WhiningCoil
16d ago
I had my thesis. Was I right? Yet to see. Those 3 am vote dumps are still possible.
WhiningCoil
16d ago
All politicians are loony when put under any scrutiny what so ever. Even my favorites are kind of loony, but in a way that's endearing to me. All that matters is the information war that shapes public perception of them.
WhiningCoil
16d ago
In public, no, in private, she took the inside track didn't she? Sucked up to the winner, then launched a coup against him.
Hillary publicly admitted defeat, and in private effectively nullified Trump's entire presidency with the fake Steel Dossier and the fake Russia investigation. Who knows what Harris has up her sleeve.
WhiningCoil
16d ago
Yeah, I've seen similar sentiments. Isn't there some scheme in Florida where every county counts their votes and shows their hand near simultaneous? And as soon as these measures were put in place, wouldn't you know it, Florida went inexplicably solid red.
WhiningCoil
16d ago
But is she retarded enough? Look at Stacy Abrams and all her hagiography denying not one, but two election losses! To this day she's a hero, has raised (embezzled?) millions of dollars for "election fortification", and even had all sorts of cringey cameos in Orange Man Bad shows like Star Trek.
WhiningCoil
16d ago
There is the theory that Ronna McDaniel and other GOP bureaucrats were purposefully sandbagging Trumpy candidates, starving them of campaign funds and promotion. Now that the Trump takeover of the GOP is complete with Lara Trump as chair, there is no longer internal sabotage.
WhiningCoil
16d ago
It ain't over 'til its over, and I still pretty much expect to wake up tomorrow to Pennsylvania or Georgia explaining how they found half a million Harris votes in a mailbox somewhere and how that's totally normal.
I do wonder what their cover for action will be this time around. Last time it was the fact that Trump told people not to vote by mail. This year their organization was all about turnout no matter how you vote. Early in person, mail in, day of, they don't care, just vote. What possibly plausible explanation can there be for those 3 am 90% Harris vote dumps?
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