VinoVeritas
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VinoVeritas
8mo ago
That can all be true and there can still be some utility in occasionally not being disingenuous
Not good for the soul to run around sperging out with no-power-level hiding, not good for the soul to constantly be maintaining a lie either
VinoVeritas
8mo ago
Do you want to be the one telling all your friends you just met the nicest guy and he's a plumber? It's true
VinoVeritas
8mo ago
This all seems off the mark to me,
As a rule
Man's a fool
When it's hot
Wants it cool
When it's cool
Wants it hot
Always wanting
What is not
I dated a girl once who was prettier than a porn fantasy, nothing physical could be improved about her in any way. And one time I almost crashed the car on purpose because I was so fed up with her stupid neurotic shit (if anyone's curious that particular time was because we apparently had to get an oil change right then before dinner with her parents (or as she wasn't able to articulate but I was able to infer her dad would have thought less of her for not taking proper care of the car)).
The problem isn't that the fantasy is unrealistic, the problem is that fantasy is typically pretty unsatisfying.
VinoVeritas
8mo ago
?? I think we're agreeing too! I'm one of those 'call it holy' connection and duty people.
Inadvertently dismantling the mother's irreplaceable role and creating this cargo cult where we all gesticulate wildly at how important it is to be a good mother has, as you said, been a disaster
VinoVeritas
8mo ago
I think we're actually agreeing with each other that once upon a time women were integral partners to the family business from wake up to bedtime and then one day kind of found themselves looking around going "so...what do I do now?"
Husband is at work
Kids are at school
You are at home
For 8 hours
Everyday
With nothing to do but throw the clothes in the washer and start the Betty Crocker mix
That I didn't go on ad nauseum about how this was not a good thing and how women can do stuff too wasn't meant to take away from the broader point which stated more plainly is "one of the causes of modern ennui can be directly traced to the erasure of domestic labor thanks to appliances"
Go hug your grandma and ask her what life was like as a human washer and dryer - she will likely bitch to the moon with a big smile on her face
VinoVeritas
8mo ago
You: "I want to do X" is difference from "I was forced to do X."
Me: "I want the communists to win the War in Russia and China" is difference from " I was forced xyz"
Also me: Please consider this as it is rather than making me regret not dressing up the claim with rhetoric and deflection
Bruh
VinoVeritas
8mo ago
I don't subscribe to the idea that my father's father was morally deficient or somehow less capable of understanding he shouldn't beat his mother, wife, sisters, or daughter. At least in my family's living memory someone who beat their wife was called a wifebeater, and that was widely considered about as low as someone who fucked their mother
VinoVeritas
8mo ago
The only thing keeping us all here is both 1) that it's the best place to be and 2) that it's the only place to be. Not unlike America or Ancient Rome, even as it dives evermore into the shitter, it's still wrong to unperson someone because both of those things will remain true for the foreseeable future.
VinoVeritas
8mo ago
Everyone's contributions are that irreplaceable. This is the most self-selected self-sorted self-assembled group of freethinkers left on planet earth that's not buried in a telegram feed somewhere impenetrable.
VinoVeritas
8mo ago
We're in furious agreement all around it seems
VinoVeritas
8mo ago
This may be a perfectly appropriate response to something from somewhere, but probably not to the question 'what do you think of all the dead Palestinians recently'?
VinoVeritas
8mo ago
They all suck and only came about after the war
We used to build Cathedrals
VinoVeritas
8mo ago
The left has successfully eliminated every space available to the less-than-50-Stalins...except for this one. Our king Zorba probably deserves a statue or at least a portrait for this - it didn't happen by accident. But that was just a little side-cuck to your deserved response lol
Point is that I keep my power level in check 99.9% of the time. Turn on the radio, bite my lip. TV, hold my tongue. Out for drinks, better not say anything. I work for myself but otherwise can only imagine.
Once in a blue moon there is value all to itself in just saying "fuck" with an extra "k" on the exhale and pointing people to scripture (Matthew 27)
VinoVeritas
8mo ago
"I want the communists to win the War in Russia and China" is difference from " I was forced xyz"
I am not being cute or trolling and don't know how to say otherwise. Our entire discourse is poisoned but please try to consider that sincerely. Or don't. Trying too hard to care is more cringe than it's ever been so not appearing to try too hard is a sign of legitimacy
VinoVeritas
8mo ago
Like 3 days ago I made a scripturally-based crack at you for acting smarmy - went over like a lead balloon, kings to you Mondego - but plywood and fluorescent aren't brutalist?
Technically correct, the best kind of correct. Rather than waving around us all like a caveman, please permit me to ask how many friends did that win you, and how productive was this exchange?
VinoVeritas
8mo ago
Speaking plainly, this mockup does not make me despair in the same way modern drop down florescent lights and cheap thin plywood does. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-1986-029-02%2C_%22Germania%22%2C_Modell_%22Gro%C3%9Fe_Halle%22.jpg
But I live in a nice house on a hill with some land where I don't have to deal with any of that day-to-day. Maybe I would feel differently if I did? (This sentence was facetious - meant to be playful - was not speaking plainly)
VinoVeritas
8mo ago
?? The emperor is still the emperor
VinoVeritas
8mo ago
Oh putting her in her place is easy.
Have you ever disagreed with a woman...about anything...ever?
Being wrong is easy, you go "oh shit babe, you're right, my bad"
Being right is worse than some historical forms of prison torture.
"Easy" lmao bruh almost literally anything else is easier
VinoVeritas
8mo ago
This is unfortunately some boomer mentality stuff maybe, everything is just Weimar expensive these days. The 89c 5-layer-beefy burrito from taco bell is $5
VinoVeritas
8mo ago
I think we can cherry pick the data and have it any way we want in picking our specific cases to compare that make our points.
Cherry pick one school district in the USA where black students outperform all their peers
VinoVeritas
8mo ago
? Sounds interesting if you'd care to share more about what you mean
VinoVeritas
8mo ago
Once in a blue moon there is value all to itself in saying what you wanted to
VinoVeritas
8mo ago
Anyone who doesn't like it is welcome to leave. There plenty of other forums out there.
This line was worn out 5 years ago. There is no where else to go.
Yeah that's a boatload of responsibility for you shepherds who didn't sign up for that job - but even the birdwatchers started banning each other years ago for political incorrectness. There is no where else to go.
If Hlynka (me lol jk) is gone from here for good, he's just gone for good. Damascus Steel. Greek Fire. Roman Concrete.
Or, off our grid at least, which is the same thing. How many OG's does it take to determine how many angels fit on the head of a pin? Because we're trimming the muscle from the bone real quick if Hlynka isn't able to do his Hlynjinx anymore. And I genuinely don't even like the guy. I've met Mr 'when I was in the service' a lot in my life, and wouldn't think he added much, if he weren't the only one still doing it!
Here's to all the posts to which we have to look forward on the newest thing in san francisco nimbyism, how ai is gay now and forever, and why Trump is really done this time
VinoVeritas
8mo ago
How did you get that from the scripture, which to refresh your recollection, reads:
What shall I do, then, with Jesus who is called the Messiah?” Pilate asked.
They all answered, “Crucify him!”
23 “Why? What crime has he committed?” asked Pilate.
But they shouted all the louder, “Crucify him!”
24 When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. “I am innocent of this man’s blood,” he said. “It is your responsibility!”
25 All the people answered, “His blood is on us and on our children!”
This wasn't my argument and this attempted characterization of my argument doesn't engender any feeling in me that any further exchange would be productive
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