VinoVeritas
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VinoVeritas
3mo ago
One of the 'guilty' got 25 to life for filming the ordeal. Perhaps we're just dealing with irreconcilable values differences
VinoVeritas
3mo ago
"Tank the stock now or (possibly) a week from now" is not a hard question for a board member
Everything exists to perpetuate itself. By definition. The first cell that became multiple set us on a course of forever wanting to do more, bigger, better. This is a measurable phenomenon. The people on the board might be 'unaccountable and stupid' but they're still acting on that maximization principle.
I'd apologize for promising 3 paragraphs but kinda proud of that summary, if you have more questions this is quite a fun exchange
VinoVeritas
3mo ago
/u/Outlaw83 "Yup!"
Shapiro by admission quite publicly of democrat party elders is a no go because he's a Jew
Polis (he changed his name from Schutz a few years ago 'because he liked it better'), see above. Also he's gay. A gay Jew for VP?? Maybe we're there already and I'm even more wrong then I thought I was, sure, but...to put him up as a bencher is bizarre
The rest of the 'top of your head' is the same. Beshear put all the kids in masks, closed all the small businesses, released uncountable numbers of violent criminals, and the day before it was all challenged...dropped it all. Machin is not even a democrat anymore dude. Newsome has failed to actually fix anything in CA so hard he's driven literally millions of taxpayers to other states. Pritzker is a 400lb Hermaeus Mora tentacle figure who nobody besides the two of us even knows, and if they did, I doubt they'd be enthralled. AOC???? And people still talk about Whitmer because she faked a kidnapping plot.
VinoVeritas
3mo ago
despite my years and success in big tech
Moving past the humble brag
People are not organizations and vice versa, but in general everything is motivated toward its' own perpetuation. I'd go on for 3 paragraphs if you're interested but really it's not a mystery why the board doesn't tank the stock on the off chance the principle survives
VinoVeritas
3mo ago
JFK assassination: the proof is that the files are still sealed 100 years later, something was off there
Pearl Harbor: the powers that be knew that by denying japan access to oil they were effectively declaring war themselves
9/11: Building 7
Seth Rich: didn't kill himself. Is this controversial, even to you?
2020 election: the pipe burst in Atlanta, everyone (but a select few caught on camera) was sent home in Milwaukee, Maricpoa suddenly found 145k ballots, Pennsylvania put up pizza boxes in front on the central tabulation office
I purport you are the weird one who thinks the government lied about the Maine, the Lusitania, the xyz, the etc but everything since then is above board. Why the gishgallop otherwise?
VinoVeritas
3mo ago
/u/fcfromssc is correct as usual but (as usual lol jk) too wordy, here's a cleaner explanation:
there is absolutely no reason for the board to publicly state that it "fully backs" you unless you're really in trouble
VinoVeritas
3mo ago
This is super simple, just go be a cop yourself. Everywhere is hiring because nobody wants to be a cop. So you can be the cop that gets the 'pot of hot water' thrown on them - everybody wins
Sincerely, wouldn't this be the best thing to do? If you disagree with the practice of not getting a pot of hot water thrown on you as a cop, be the change you wish to see?
VinoVeritas
3mo ago
Stuff like this makes me give serious consideration to whether black people in the US have a point when they say the police is systematically biased against them.
?? This is terrible chinese robber epistemic hygiene. You see one news story about one police interaction in a country where cops have 10k encounters a day and it changes your priors??
VinoVeritas
3mo ago
Biden hasn't been removed from power
With what knowledge the rest of us lack are you making this assertion
VinoVeritas
3mo ago
Whatever happened to Anthony Fauci (NB I am speaking my truth plainly and with brevity, which is the soul of wit)
VinoVeritas
3mo ago
This was a botched job that only didn't succeed out of dumb luck - was that your point?
VinoVeritas
3mo ago
Bruh this is beneath this place. What are we doing here. All of the carriers and multiple battleships were out of 'the' (pearl) harbor that day on a 'last-minute training exercise.'
VinoVeritas
3mo ago
No they weren't?
This level of discourse is beneath us
VinoVeritas
3mo ago
Gonna let you have the last word, best wishes
VinoVeritas
3mo ago
The Romney treatment is when the media takes a perfectly normal family man and calls them a nazi, using specific allegories to back up their assertion "he left his dog on the roof, he has binders full of women!"
It was a netflix release during corona dude. The book was a #1 best seller, the movie was nominated for academy awards, the audience reviews were high, and millions of people watched it...on netflix.
VinoVeritas
3mo ago
JD Vance wrote a popular book turned into a popular movie where his inoffensive chubby momma's boy character saves the day. Yes, he will receive the Romney treatment, but I question how effective it'll be
VinoVeritas
3mo ago
Thanks, although I still don't really see your point. If they had already calculated Biden wouldn't be the nominee, surely that factored into their VP pick? Although maybe not, it was braggadocio, and now they're the dog that caught the mailman.
But again Vance isn't going to get raked over any worse than any other straight white guy, imo
VinoVeritas
3mo ago
Trump has absolutely lost a few steps from even '20, much less '16. He does not have the intelligence or insight that he had as a younger man. Still definitely has what's required to lead tho, imo
Trump did actually take a small loan of a million dollars from his slumlord father and build an international megacorporation with hundreds of the most prime real estate properties on planet earth.
Kamala, the daughter of a McGill professor and a Stanford professor, graduated from Howard University and Hastings College without distinction or any accomplishments of note before starting a relationship with the mayor of San Francisco and beginning to receiving a series of political appointments.
VinoVeritas
3mo ago
(though I understand why Trump supporters will be unhappy since it was obviously to Trump's advantage for Biden to stay in)
Not sure I agree with this or that the data does either. If there did exist 'Generic Democrat' waiting in the wings - a candidate everyone had been secretly hungry for in '20 that never threw in their hat - then maybe so. If Andrew Cuomo hadn't been MeToo'd and his corona press conferences in the windbreakers were everyone's last memory of him, maybe so.
But the democrat bench is structurally unsound to a degree that's been (imo) hidden by the conspiracy of silence surrounding the topic. The GOP in '16 (their last contested primary) had an embarrassment of riches, which the media lovingly referred to as the 'clown car.' Like 6+ popular governors running (Jindal, Perry, etc), some from non-traditionally safe republican states (Bush, Kasich, Walker, etc). All those guys are completely wiped out, granted, but the GOP has been consistently spitting out new guys like Vance, Hawley, etc for '28
The democrats have had exactly 1 clear-the-benches primary this entire century. '00 was smooth sailing for Gore, '04 for Kerry, '08 was Clinton-until-it-wasn't, '12 incumbent Obama, '16 Clinton-and-it-was.
But in '20 when the opportunity was ripe and it was all hands on deck, the democrats were running Joe, Bernie, Kamala, Warren, and the mayor of some town in Indiana. There was and is no Klobmentum.
Frankly, it seems to me as though their repeated decisions to 'clear-the-board' for their preferred candidate rather than the benches, the party may have cooked itself for the foreseeable future
VinoVeritas
3mo ago
Having trouble deciphering what your second point has to do with the first, mind saying more?
To your first point, anyone opposed to the media's current darling will always get the Mitt Romney 'roof dog, binder women' treatment. Vance is a "don't scare the hoes" candidate compared to anyone short of a Nikki Haley (which it breaks my heart to say, probably would have been the preferred choice of the modal swing voter)
VinoVeritas
3mo ago
It occurs to me that until we hear it out of the horse's mouth this all remains a (imo) grotesque, nebulous dance between people who nobody voted for (the media, the donors, and Aaron Sorkin's West Wing club staffing the WH).
Joe Biden did not actually write that letter or make that post. Has anyone told him yet that he's not running for re-election anymore?
VinoVeritas
3mo ago
The guy who just tried to assassinate him presumably did want to see Trump get assassinated
VinoVeritas
4mo ago
There was a conventional GOP primary, the party wanted Trump. Because he says loudly and clearly that it is unacceptable that millions of people have illegally entered our country and they have to go back
The other guy not so much
VinoVeritas
4mo ago
In 2020 two ballots addressed to myself arrived in the mail, then in ‘22 I got zero ballots for me but one for my dead uncle.
I did write the secretary of state’s office more than once and only ever got the automated ‘thank you for your submission’ response
Sorry about the delayed response! Real life stuff
But our hypothetical member of the board gains reputational benefit from showing they are a team player who are willing to say the emperor has a great new outfit up until the very moment they say he doesn't.
The Catholic Church has existed for 2,000 years - I'd imagine they've been doing something right just based on that
It's a move that accrues the benefit of showing the next emperor they'll have 'full support' up until the moment they don't and a soft landing on the way out. Nobody wants to replace the guy who was just openly couped by the mayor of the palace
See above, the next head of the Secret Service is assured that they'll have everyone's 'full support' right up to and after the moment they're shown the door
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