SubstantialFrivolity
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SubstantialFrivolity
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11d ago
Sure, you don't have to appeal to people if you remove the democratic nature of our government. But that is so far outside the realm of probability that it isn't worth discussing.
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11d ago
Why not?
Is not the better course to make the electorate change for the better, whatever it takes?
Simply put, because you can't. All you can do, and all they have done, is cause people to not speak their true thoughts under threat. But that doesn't change them, that simply makes them quietly resent you and bide their time. And since we live in a democratic society, you really do need to change them.
I'm aware of all the various rhetoric you quoted saying "we shouldn't waste time trying to appeal to them". But that rhetoric is exactly why they lost this election, and why they will continue to lose elections (not every election to be sure, but enough) until they realize that politics is not a game of who is the most self righteous and preachy.
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11d ago
No, but it does make them not feminine if both men and women are prone to the behavior.
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11d ago
Because his plot to overturn the 2020 election failed?
I feel like that just goes one level deeper (insert Inception fog horn here), because not everyone agrees that such a plot existed to begin with.
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11d ago
Which indeed is the crux of the problem with the left in America these days: they refuse to acknowledge that yes, you have to actually engage with people that you want to convince. You can't just preach at people and demand they convert. You need to do the hard work of talking to people, understanding where they're coming from, and trying to appeal to them in terms that they can appreciate.
A lot of times the left can get away with this, for example in Hollywood and stuff where they have a stranglehold on the culture. But when it comes to elections, you can't berate people into voting for you. And unless they learn that lesson, they're going to have more Trump-style "how could America vote for these awful people" losses.
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11d ago
These can both be explained by the same thing: the vocal anti-Trump "resistance" folks are part of a social group where people who fight oppressors on behalf of the little guy have a ton of status. Everyone loves a David vs Goliath story, but for this subculture that tendency is way stronger than it is for other groups. That means that these people are more likely to be overzealous in identifying tyranny (because they subconsciously want the chance to fight for freedom like the stories they were raised on), and more likely to be very conspicuous in their efforts (so that they can get the approval of their peers). If they were fighting an actual tyrant they would need to be more circumspect (as you point out), but anyone who has grown up in America is so far removed from actual tyranny that they don't even recognize how good they have it.
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13d ago
Based on his past record, this is blatantly not true.
I disagree. His past record shows that his presidency will not be significantly different from any other.
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13d ago
Such an amendment would discredit the government for obvious reasons.
Not obvious to me, can you elaborate? I personally think that there doesn't need to be an amendment because the federal government doesn't have authority to restrict abortion anyways, but I don't see how it would be bad to include an amendment to explicitly prohibit it.
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14d ago
For what it's worth there is a grid if you build on foundations. But I don't disagree that it's a hassle. Building stuff is a veritable chore in Satisfactory, not helped by the fact that the devs have refused to implement blueprints big enough to actually be useful.
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14d ago
How was this exactly a skeleton.
How is it not? The fact that she got her political career started by the power of her vagina instantly disqualified her as a candidate in my mind. And yes, I'm someone who could have been convinced to vote for her if not for that. I'm sure I'm not alone. So, if her past behavior turned away potential voters, that qualifies as a skeleton in her closet to me.
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15d ago
I genuinely think you're typical-minding here.
To be fair, the mindset he describes is typical in my experience. People that invested in politics are not the majority, thankfully.
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15d ago
My wife is black, is upset about the election results (more than I think she should be tbh), and she isn't saying stuff like that. Of course, if she was crazy enough to overreact on that level I wouldn't have married her. /shrug
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15d ago
Note that I didn't say "if you're shitting bricks about Trump winning you're crazy", though. It's very specifically the idea of "all women should punish all men by refusing to have sex with them" that I called crazy (and it is). A normal, well-adjusted person isn't going to immediately jump to punishing half of the country because of an election result.
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15d ago
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15d ago
It's crazy on day one. It's a wild overreaction and a normal, well-adjusted person would understand that.
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15d ago
It's possible that the advice of others is the correct way to go, and it may be the case, but don't do it prematurely.
I don't think anyone is saying it needs to be brought up proactively, just pointing out that if it does come up it'll be ok in the end no matter what happens.
I know totally normal women who are saying nobody should have sex with men anymore.
I know it's kind of off-topic, but I would not call those totally normal women lol. Anyone who says that unironically is crazy.
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15d ago
Unless inflation statistics are completely falsified
I believe that's the idea. I have no dog in the fight either way, but it certainly seems like people believe that inflation statistics have been falsified (or are fatally flawed) because their lived experience does not jive with the statistics.
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15d ago
I know this stuff is scary, but it really is better to get it out in the open. If she breaks up with you, then she was never right for you to begin with and you won't be wasting more time on a dead end relationship. If she doesn't mind, then you can be even more secure in your relationship knowing that she loves you enough to not let trivial things get in the way.
Not saying you need to proactively broach the topic. And obviously it's going to be painful if she breaks up with you. But try to focus on the long term positive, it helps some with the fear in my experience.
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15d ago
Nah, that still wouldn't work because you can't prove that you captured all Hatians.
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15d ago
Unfortunately no, I wish I did.
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16d ago
I think people on this site have made a surprisingly (to me) good case for bringing back property ownership requirements to have the vote. That may not be the best solution (buying a house is not exactly easy depending on where you live), but I do think it's a good idea to require voters to have a vested interest in the long-term success of the country and proof that they are able to contribute positively. I used to think that universal suffrage was an obvious good thing, but I'm not so sure after seeing some discussions on it in the past.
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16d ago
As far as I’m concerned the burden of proof is on the people saying it’s not happening.
That's not how burden of proof works, as it is impossible to prove something isn't happening.
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16d ago
Bro there is absolutely nothing sexist about that post. It's not even mean or derogatory in any way. You're way overreacting to what is, at worst, a not very funny joke.
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17d ago
It unfortunately is a serious objection, even though it's a terrible one. I've seen it in the wild more than once.
Wow. I knew arranged marriages were a thing, but I didn't know they were that ubiquitous. With that many marriages being arranged, are the handful of people who don't go that route looked down upon as weirdos or anything?
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