This seems like a debate between Lawful Evil and Chaotic Evil. Your "righteous" (and possibly genocidal) Orc who's running a tight ship and whose men are only eating one PoW in twenty alive is probably better at running his ship than the Orc on the next ship over who are eating every single PoW alive and leaving PoW bones laying around on the ship deck. That "righteous" orc is making a greater contribution to the army of Sauron.
Everybody wants to act like their enemies are the absolute worst, the lowest of the low, the scum of the earth - and they are almost universally wrong, and simply have never seen real scum in their lives.
Yeah - police officers in really bad neighborhoods, ER doctors in the same areas, maybe people in psych units, people in maximum security prisons, and combat soldiers might see stuff like this. I'll grant that the Nazis were orderly in their mass murdering. I've heard it said essentially that outside of the huge piles of bodies coming out of the murder factories they built, the Nazis behaved more or less decently...although that is one hell of a qualifying statement. It's like saying "Sure. Hans is a decent guy if you're not looking at the 50 bodies he's got buried out back. Ivan, however...Ivan's a bit more disorganized with his shit. And let's not even talk about Akira, he's hopped up on meth and eating the bodies."
Yeah. Kind of facetiously: what if the gun had been used to kill a cardinal instead of the Pope?
It's the same reason why in some places road racing cyclists that ride like dangerous jackasses and do things that are dangerous but not illegal wind up having accidents and crashing their bikes.
Basically: the Hock is a homebrew form of psychological chemo in your view. Its aim is to kill the neurosis or other bullshit before it kills the host as well.
I was thinking about Killian Jornet's account of his upbringing, but with social grace instead of mountaineering: raised by an alpine guide father and climber mother, he started going on family ski trips, cross country skiing up mountains and going downhill on alpine skis. By five, he was going up 10,000-foot mountains and traveling on glaciers with ropes, crampons, and ice axes. By the time he was ten, he'd backpacked across the Pyrenees with his family - a journey that took them over a month and which their family repeated yearly. By 13, his mother took him on longer trips on the mountain, where he would sometimes fail to bring enough to eat or drink. So he licked water off rocks for as long as sixteen hours.
Imagine a family like this...but a networking or political family. I'm reasonably sure that families and maybe smallish communities like this exist...there's probably like a small pack of climbers in Colorado or something raising their kids a lot like the Jornet family did. I've never seen or heard of this though. Yeah, it could be bullshit, but if even a quarter of it is true...
Anyone got an over/under on my odds of surviving this shit?
Interesting - would have thought it was political families to be honest. I know there are families of engineers, military families... probably bush league politics and networking families too.
What do people there think about my plan to attempt this Hock?
Hell, even if you don't have a bike you ride outdoors, this seems like a better deal...just a beater to stick on the trainer is a few hundred bucks and something nice is a grand used.
Question: for the price of a Peloton, why not just grab a pretty solid used road bike for $700-$1k and a smart trainer to put it on? This way, you have a stationary bike AND a road bike...
Y'all sound like a bunch of hyperlexic autists...
Knights, in ages past, trained incessantly at knightly shit from childhood. Are there groups of people or cultures that train this intensely at networking...the kind of people where, if charisma and political competence was martial skill, they'd be very similar to Japanese samurai or European knights or other martial aristocrats? Or: since the average person has the same kind of material comfort and wealth as the aristocrats in ages past, are they just determined as all hell and making like ducks, seeming to not try very hard while actually putting in extremely demanding performances, like JFK and his career as a soldier and politician while suffering from severe chronic pain and never letting on, except to his closest friends, how much he was suffering? FDR the polio sufferer seems to have been cut of the same cloth. More mundanely, I've seen a few people who have chronic pain and don't really look like they're suffering. Maybe Joe Average is secretly determined as all hell and doesn't cop to it...
hockey has long had a culture of policing things that aren't quite illegal, but considered excessive via player-based enforcement in fights.
Cycling too, in some places - there are a lot of legal ways to be an asshole, even a dangerous asshole, in a bike race. Riders can also swerve and take each other out. So there's basically a gentlemen's agreement going in cycling.
Surviving the Hock will mean that I am no longer both disgusting and hypocritical for wanting a relationship.
Don't worry, I'm not descending into utter nihilism or insanity like our buddy Skook
I guess I've been summoned: would you say that I am insane, or just nihilistic as all hell? Like, the basic premise of the Hock cashes out to "if you're an unattractive person/dude, whether it's because fugly or autistic or physically disabled or whatever, your partners are probably gonna find you disgusting. So you're asking for an awful lot there from your partner, arguably for no good goddamn reason. You kind of suck and are hypocritical if you're not down to freely choose to suffer like a motherfucker for no good reason - you're asking the same of your partner."
Maybe the Hock doesn't make you some kind of Chad, but surviving it sure as hell freezes some of certain kinds of hypocrisy off of you, as well as being a test of physical and mental fortitude. The Hock, like shit like climbing Everest or Navy SEAL Hell Week, seems to be most heavily loaded for high conscientiousness and low neuroticism.
I guess you might come to believe that you have something that approaches a moral duty to not offend people or to not do so inadvertently, and to be graceful and socially skilled. How you'd get there, IDK.
If he cooked up anything that was hock like, he would definitely not have the same type of narcissistic entitlement. Supreme Gentlemen are already Supreme and so don't need to fucking Hockmaxx.
The day I posted this, I ran five miles as training for the Hock.
downgrade kidnapping if the victim ever went on business trips
That seems like the most central example...the kidnapper is at least presumably doing so for personal gain or ransom, but the stabber isn't trying to rob blood from the victim at knifepoint.
Still training for the Hock. Becoming stronger physically. Also becoming less neurotic and more determined. More conscientious and more able to endure shit. People seem to be nicer and my friends seem to think I am not as visibly autistic. Contemplating the idea that you might be a frozen corpse in less than four months tends to put things into perspective. Also, losing some weight; started Vyvanse for ADHD. Switched to it from Adderall. Vyvanse is much smoother and also suppresses appetite. Silexan, or lavender oil, is also doing wonders for my anxiety/neuroticism. Also on 10mg fluoxetine, but adding the lavender oil really seems to have made a difference.
Am now 5'6" and 155 lbs; lost five pounds. Mostly fat, probably: lifts in weight room going up. Also more tired, but hey, that's part of training for something like the Hock.
Plan to make a blog or something describing my Hock prep efforts in a few days to a week; I have a little more than 100 days before I set out on the Hock. A hundred days (not much!) in which to get swole and build enough endurance for my journey through Hell, which I will hopefully survive.
All in all, things are going pretty well, and I'm happy about the changes I'm making. People are impressed by the Hock when I call it a "winter backpacking trip" and think it's badass. The Hock provideth.
There is a difference between theft and robbery. Even the criminal underworld understands this. Robbers use force or the threat of force to steal shit; I would think that someone that's raping a sex worker is doing the same...using force or its threat.
People like Shkreli or Madoff don’t seem to have had that much trouble in prison - a lot IQ place.
Weren't these guys in relatively cushy prisons for white collar criminals...not a maximum security prison with hardened murderers and gang leaders and shit?
Essentially: it's the asterisk on the Harvard degree.
In fact I think there’s something pathological about antipathy towards your own tribe, your own religion or culture.
It is sad in some ways, but also admirable in others. It's what cultural diffusion looks like. One culture can definitely be better adapted to an environment than another. It's like the old saw about who would win a fight: a lion, or a shark?
The Nazis look like they were just saying "You need to conduct your mass murder in an organized way - none of this messy, disorganized, ad hoc murder. We Germans herd our victims into train cars and ultimately into death camps that churn dead bodies out like Volkswagens off the factory floor."
I would say Baron von Killinger was not horrified by the brutality - German concentration camps were just as bad - but by the disorganization and lack of efficiency that he may have seen. After all, the Romanians were using a lot of train fuel and freight car capacity to murder those five thousand people...
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