SeeeVeee
2yr ago
I think they're much less opposed to it than white progs, frankly.
Saw a recent poll, 82 percent of black dem voters consider crime to be a high priority to them. For white Dems, the number is 31 percent. They live in wildly different spheres, totally disconnected in terms of exposure to the ass end of these high minded but out of touch policies.
SeeeVeee
2yr ago
You're misreading me. I don't really care that Jews agitate very effectively as a class, and have an outsized influence in some industries. But they do.
SeeeVeee
2yr ago
They are more effective at it. But I'm not saying that we have to care. I don't really care.
SeeeVeee
2yr ago
I don't believe the parasite class weakening the host shit.
I think they are a group of high achievers that agitate effectively as a class, and may preferentially hire other Jews.
Nothing more, nothing less
I don't believe in some grand Jewish conspiracy. I would expect them to interbreed with white elites. As Yarvin says, the story of Jews in America is a story of assimilation, not domination.
But the upper crust whites are a hell of a lot more Jewish than the bottom tier. And as such, they have more power. And because of the Holocaust/Jewish advocacy, they're still capable of agitating as a class when they want, in a way that upper crust whites can't or won't.
"They interbreed with other elites" isn't much of a gotcha for what I'm saying.
SeeeVeee
2yr ago
I don't have any statistics, but I think Jews having outsized power in certain areas (Hollywood, banking) is fairly obvious.
I believe that Jews preferentially hire other Jews, but I don't have stats.
It also seems obvious that Jews agitate as a class.
Kanye has said a lot of crazy shit about a lot of people and groups, but look what happened when he went against Jews. They coordinated against him, and hurt him more effectively than any other group has been capable of.
SeeeVeee
2yr ago
Kanye has said a lot of wild shit about a lot of different groups. But when he went after Jews, everything changed. They rapidly coordinated against him, and took him from billionaire to millionaire over night.
Hilariously, even his bank kicked him out. And his talent agency. I'm sure that will go a long way in terms of proving that Jews don't have disproportionate power in Hollywood, banking and law.
I don't think the argument is over capacity. Everyone knows Jews are smart. The questions are, are they nepotistic? Do they agitate as a class?
I think they do. I think they behave the exact way wokes claim whites do (but whites don't).
I don't have much in the way of an anti-Jew bias and don't care about it very much. But I think it's interesting, especially after seeing what happened to Kanye for being, essentially, the modern equivalent to Marilyn Manson (Kanye is as much a genuine Nazi as Manson was a genuine satanist).
SeeeVeee
2yr ago
Fair enough, I do find pair programming the best way to learn. It does help me to concentrate quite a bit. I haven't had as much of a chance to do that as I'd like, but when I can, I do.
Anybody else here have pretty bad concentration issues? I'm near the end of a coding camp and will be looking for a job in tech soon (timing couldn't be worse, with the tech job market as it is).
I've been messing with various stimulants. I used to take Dexedrine or Adderall, but I don't tolerate amphetamine well. Currently I use coffee, but I'm also sensitive to caffeine so I can only handle about half a cup currently. I sometimes use provigil, I used to take a full 200mg pill, but that made sleep too difficult. I switched to half a pill, 100mg, and that seems to work. But it isn't something I can take daily, again because of sleep. I still need to experiment more with a quarter of a pill, 50 mg. I've only done that a handful of times, but it seems like it might be low enough that I'm thrust into the comedown after two or three hours, which would be a problem.
I used to smoke, and vape, and use snus. Nicotine seems to work well for me, but I don't want to mess up my lungs, get gum disease, or obviously cancer. So I've been using tobacco free nicotine pouches, a ten pack of 15mg nicotine pouches will arrive today. I don't have a comedown or anxiety with nicotine, so that seems to be the winner so far.
Does anyone have advice for managing this stuff? I'm so much more productive with it, but I'm so sensitive to anxiety and sleep disturbances that it's hard to imagine that I could do it long term. Maybe a day with 100mg provigil, then a day without, repeat? Provigil's half life is so long that daily doesn't seem possible, at least not long term.
Edit: Does anyone have experience with khat?
SeeeVeee
2yr ago
Thank you, this is exactly what I needed to hear. Especially the specific responses/tactics you used, that makes me feel somewhat armed for when I deal with this stuff.
SeeeVeee
2yr ago
I'm locked into starting a career in tech, in one of the wokest cities in the nation.
I need to make money. I'm hoping to start a family in the next few years, and if I'm lucky, I can make enough money that my wife won't have to work full time.
But I've heard a lot of horror stories. And while I was antiwoke in the past, I'm even more so today.
How can I survive in this field while minimizing the amount of "evil" that I have to be accomplice to? I'm not a great liar, and I do see this stuff as a form of mundane evil.
SeeeVeee
2yr ago
He's well aware. I've been seeing him for a long, long time, and he trusts me somewhat at this point.
When he's going to talk about something that he knows could get him in trouble, he says it in a way that I know he's saying it against his better judgement. But he isn't telling this to most patients, he's told me that he knows he can't say this stuff with most of his patients.
But he has a history with heterodox stuff, and I think he likes it.
In the beginning he didn't tell me this kind of stuff, and he didn't share much about himself. But I think he ditched the typical psych stance because he thought he could better reach me by being more honest. And I think that was the right call, it's a large part of why I feel I can trust him
SeeeVeee
2yr ago
She did know my beliefs, I developed them halfway through our relationship. Well, I had suspicions at the start, and found confirmation partway through.
It was dicey at first, but she was open to it. It helped that she knew me by then, and that it wasn't a "my pure hu-white blood" thing.
SeeeVeee
2yr ago
There is an argument I'm using it wrong. Sometimes I talk about myself, but sometimes I'm in something of a holding pattern and talk about nonsense. I like to test halfway formed ideas, and his responses tell me when I'm being crazy and when I've legitimately noticed things that are true. I used to have a lot of guilt and shame about realizations I've had, and when he semi confirms something, it helps to ease that feeling.
I'm entering a new field, and once I've fully acclimated I will probably stop seeing him. But right now, it's comforting
SeeeVeee
2yr ago
I think my psych is an odd one. He doesn't buy the multiple intelligences hypothesis, or a lot of the other stuff he's supposed to. He doesn't see trans clients anymore, because he's skeptical of the affirmation first model, and feels that psychs are put in a no win scenario.
He told me a story about a friend of his, another psych, who works at a hospital. One of his friend's residents had a trans patient that wanted to surgically transition. The resident wasn't sure what to do, so he asked her. She said she wasn't sure either, and referred the case to their gender center (or whatever they call it now). She was informed, in no uncertain terms, that if they ask for it, they get it. Then she found her responsibilities curtailed. So he doesn't touch it with a ten foot pole.
He believes in hbd, and believes that the black community has been taught to externalize their problems.
He's also really critical of feminists, after he clashed with them on campus because of sex based research into the brain that he was doing. He buys into red pill-lite ideas.
He's still mostly a NYT liberal, but he has to keep his mouth shut about a lot of topics (and has plenty of stories about how he's gotten into trouble because he couldn't)
I think you're right about the trajectory of the field. If I had to get a younger psych I probably wouldn't bother. They won't let guys like that in anymore.
You think this is the chief value? Or is this just your own hangup? I almost married a black chick, even though I believe in hbd. I can see a lot of cultural and political effects that are far more important than snark snark autism snark.
Sometimes when I'm researching random shit I'll tell him about it.
He can be a useful sounding board. Basically an NYT liberal, but heterodox enough to be able to have certain conversations. It helps ground me.
SeeeVeee
2yr ago
Thank you. I agree that the argument that it foments race hate falls flat when you take into account that the people saying this are pushing race hate.
SeeeVeee
2yr ago
Man, those links are a trip. If I showed those to anyone back in the '90s, they'd think it was something a White supremacist put together.
I'm definitely at 3. I think there's too much invested in the illusion for it to fail. White elites can pivot to the anti-White resentments of certain minorities to outcompete other Whites. Arguments about truth are irrelevant, even harm to the very groups we claim to be protecting is irrelevant.
As long as that coalition is a source of power, this stuff can't be used to help anyone.
We're a long ways off from there really being no way to make money if you aren't substantially brighter than average. My plumber makes 250k, he's been doing it a while but his company is just him and two other guys.
I think that if we separated kids by ability and slotted them into tracks that lead to realistic career choices, you could have a lot of very successful Black and White tradesmen, foremen, etc.
But first, we'd have to admit that aptitude is a thing, and that not everyone can grow up to be a physicist. We make perfect the enemy of the good, and it's mostly the underserved who pay for it.
SeeeVeee
2yr ago
I think there's a danger to putting off a problem with the view that it will eventually be (probably) solved with technology.
SeeeVeee
2yr ago
I agree, but I'm not the one saying it, it's something I hear a lot. I saw a YouTube comment on some race vid, and the guy's point was "so what if it's true, bad things happen when we notice". I wanted the strongest argument against that.
When you acknowledge hbd is true, they can stereotype you as "clearly they want bad things to happen to xyz". I think it's important to not inhabit our enemies stereotypes of us, and I genuinely believe that suppressing hbd leads to worse outcomes for black people.
I believe that much of the resistance to tracking students differently based on ability is based on the idea that if x percent in the advanced or remedial track doesn't match the gen pop, then it must be racism. Therefore, we must not individuate. If it was common knowledge that hbd was true, then we could allow kids to be grouped by ability in a way that would allow them to be taught more effectively.
Or, maybe they're just rationalizing, and they'd be against that regardless. But they'd have to be honest.
They stopped recording this? I haven't heard that. Do you have a source? That's awful, I hope it isn't true/there's still a way to know moving forward
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