Frequent_Anybody2984
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Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
George Bush had like a 92% approval rating. I'm sure there were Marxists and libertarians on college campuses at that time who said we deserved it but the vast majority of people were pissed off and wanted blood.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
I was alive then and it's nothing like post 9/11. A lot of people are criticizing Israel and US foreign policy in the ME right now. That definitely wasn't happening after 9/11. Also, there is a lot more sympathy for Muslims now, especially on the Left. A war for Israel would be extremely unpopular.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
True, but if she starts getting push back about the guy killing himself as this movie draws more attention to it, she will still make it about her and how it affects her. The push back will be "harassment" and "trolling" and "violence" and she will feel even more strongly she is a victim. This people are so predictable. She will never apologize or think she did anything wrong.
This goes to show how victimhood in progressive thought is anti-fragile. You can write a story about some guy in the New Yorker to critical acclaim that smears his name with lies, get it made into a movie, the guy kills himself, and when you get a negative response you are still the (even bigger) victim! People wonder why wokeness is so popular and THIS IS WHY! How can you even defeat that?
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
Islamic extremists absolutely would do that. These same ones shot up a whole music festival and murdered innocent children and took toddlers as hostages. But we are supposed to believe killing babies is too far? There is almost no amount of savagery by Islamic extremists that should shock you at this point, especially after ISIS, but here we are I guess.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
I agree. Them doing that made it even more important for the West kill ISIS immediately. But they were so dedicated that they had to go kill infidels regardless,
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
It's the opposite of Satanic. They think the God of Abraham is on their side. They are Islamic extremists. They would literally rather die than live under Israeli occupation. People in the West on both the Right and Left don't seem to understand that they have sincerely held religious beliefs that make them do things that we would consider irrational. ISIS and Bin Laden and many others have written out their beliefs on this and Westerners just don't seem to believe them. This is why I still believe that radical Islam is literally the biggest threat to mankind because it is a mind virus that makes people believe insane things. I really don't think any other religion or ideology is like this. Think about it this way. ISIS, while in the middle of a war of survival in the ME, sent terrorists to Europe to kill civilians. That is completely irrational unless you think you are fighting a global war for God. This is why they do what they do. It's really that simple.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
Given terrorist attacks in the US and Europe the prior should be pretty high that they would commit atrocities like this. Even if they didn't, we know they slaughtered people at a music festival so they are committing war crimes regardless.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
If you actually believe that then I don't know what to tell you
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
The government forcing private businesses to fix their screw ups is so obviously morally wrong.. Plus this will obviously not work. A bad event will happen and this will go away. It blows my mind people still propose these kinds of solutions.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
If anyone wants to see this idea explored in a fantasy setting you should check out The Black Company. As the series go on, you think of the initial antagonist in a different light based on how the other leaders of the world are and you see her point of view. Spoiler alert for a book series that ended 20 years ago:
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
I think it's more that they supported terrorists right after a terrorist massacre of innocent civilians. If they had just kept their mouth shut for a few weeks while this was in the news then they would have been fine. I'm not Jewish and I don't really care about Israel all that much but I also would have wanted this person fired. This person sounds like they are a psychotic narcissist with no impulse control and would be awful to work with. That is on top of being a massive PR liability for the firm.
I posted about this earlier, but this whole saga has been shocking to me how these leftists can't even pretend to have sympathy for real victims of a tragedy FOR JUST A FEW DAYS! Instead, they are crying about Israel propaganda and how there's no evidence that these women slaughtered at the music festival were raped. It's like okay fine they weren't raped (even though let's be honest there's a good chance they were). Instead 250 plus civilians were just shot in cold blood then stripped naked and spat upon (literally) while they drove around in trucks celebrating their death and posting it to social media to humiliate them and their families. Even if you pick out that one piece of information, it's still so awful that the raping really doesn't matter one way or another if a rape happened.
All this person had to do was shut up until Israel messes up and kills civilians in their counter attack and they could have gone back to larping as a freedom fighter while working on Wall Street. This person is not a serious person. This whole saga makes me update my priors that Hanania is right about Civil Rights law being the biggest reason for this. What other reason could there be someone so ridiculous is given such an amazing opportunity and red carpet rolled out to invite them to the elite? The sad part is they will still land on their feet and this will probably end up helping them.
At the end of the day though, this isn't really their fault. They were trained to make these kinds of comments with no repercussions. In fact, they probably benefited from these kinds of hot takes. If you look back at their social media history and application letters to elite institutions, it was probably full of similar remarks that they were praised for. And any negative reactions they probably dismissed as bigotry or that the people on the left criticizing them were "liberals". However, they finally ran up against something that at least humans have enough dignity left to hold them accountable for at least for a few months. People don't want to work with someone who supports terrorists who murder innocent civilians and records it for social media. However, in a few months, this will pass and they will have some other elite position making lots of money. This is just the world we live in.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
LLMs are already making lots of wiki type searches obsolete
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
Yeah, this is kind of what I was getting at. If they just stayed silent for a few days, gave a halfhearted condemnation about attacking civilian targets, and then waited for the inevitable Israeli killing of civilians in their response to start hating Israel again then I wouldn't really be shocked. But straight up endorsing terrorist attacks on women and children is a huge escalation in rhetoric.
I think the reason this is tolerated more than the same on the right is that most people just think of these people as kind of a joke. It's like in Succession when he tells his kids they aren't serious people. Someone in Harvard Law playing with these radical ideas will just end up a boring drone in corporate America. I had a friend who went to Berkeley Law and he told me that all the people that came in and had written sob stories about being refugees and how they wanted to change the world all took high paying corporate jobs that were the complete opposite of what they claimed they would do. So at the end of they day, these people really aren't going to do much. It makes sense too because to get into an elite school like that, you need to be disciplined and be a conformist. So their radicalism is conformist radicalism that is a playground where you're allowed to be a "radical" without having any consequences.
Meanwhile, the Right actually attacks real power structures. Say what you want about Jan 6 or the Trucker Protest, but they actually seriously threatened elite power structures
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
What would they be expected to change? You can be against mass immigration and also be against murdering a bunch of young people. What Brevik did doesn't really have any impact on what I think about immigration.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
I unfortunately understand too well that's how people are when it comes to admitting they are wrong. However, I have an extremely low opinion of DSA type people and I really don't think most have sincerely held beliefs or principles so I thought they'd just react to this and at least pretend to care about Israel civilians for a few days before they go onto their new fashionable belief. And for the ones that do have that sincere belief, I thought they'd at least pretend to care and have good PR for a few days until Israel blows up a hospital with civilians in it and they can walk back their "support" and go back to hating Israel publicly. Neither of these turned out to be true though and these reactions did surprise me. That so many leftists would come out and say that Israelis civilians deserve to die and had this coming is extremely shocking to me. I will straight up admit I am not a fan of these kinds of people, but I actually expected more sympathy out of them. Maybe I am naive.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
I would hope they would update their priors on Palestine and Hamas even just a little bit or at the very least look at the situation and have better PR for a few days and pretend to have a minimum of sympathy even if they didn't change their opinion. At lot of the people they killed and captured weren't even Israelis or Jews.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
Is anyone else here pretty shocked by many on the Left's support of Hamas after these attacks? I'm not talking Biden type people on the Left, but DSA type leftists who support "The Squad". They are more or less saying that Israel deserved this. I really don't understand how you can see a bunch of men slaughter innocent civilians at a music festival, kill innocent civilians just going about their day, capture women and children as hostages, and parade dead bodies around on trucks and upload it to social media and not have sympathy for Israelis. Yet these people are more or less saying Israel deserved this and the real victims of this will be Palestine.
I don't think this is a strawman either. If you go on reddit or Twitter you will see this sentiment. I guess this is the inevitable outcome of the oppressor/oppressed decolonize framework so many of them have adopted. This is pretty blackpilling for me because I would have thought an action like this could shake them out of their biased worldview, but this has actually seemed to do the opposite and make them hate Israel more. It's also pretty unfortunate we have to share a country with these kinds of people and they can vote. I'm not saying you need to love Israel and can't be critical of it, but what happened is to me pretty obviously evil and barbaric, and a lot of people are making excuses for it.
This feels very "well actually" where you purposely misinterpret what I said to make me look bad. And it also feels like you are accusing me of having an agenda when I literally said I am asking a question and that I could be wrong.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
I think we agree? My question was if there is a strategic long term goal I'm missing because I have no clue what I am talking about on this issue. And I don't think a YOLO is irrational under certain circumstances, so maybe this attack by Hamas was rational even if it was barbaric and cruel.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
Why are there so many women in data science? I don't mean fake boot camp data scientists who know how to use pandas or matplotlib. I mean women with a math degree then a master's in data science. I won't pretend to be a data science expert by any means, but when I was getting my CS degree, I took a couple data science electives and they were really hard. I'd put them up there with my operating systems (dinosaur book) and computer systems classes in terms of difficulty. There was a ton of calculus and probability on top of coding in there. If you look at low level programming in C or assembly there's almost no women in any of those classes unless its a requirement. It's the same in industry. Yet there are a ton in data science, which I found to be just as difficult to be good at as programming in C.
Is this just some kind of networking effect where women gravitate to a field with other women? This is something that seems super obvious to me and I've never heard anyone give a good explanation.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
I actually do think there's nothing the South could have done to keep slavery in the long term and it was more or less a pointless YOLO. I think that even if they South won they would have gotten rid of slavery pretty quickly afterwards because it wasn't viable economically long term and they would have been a pariah state in the West after everyone else outlawed it.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
Is there any strategic long term benefit to what Hamas did? I really don't know much about it or follow that conflict because I find it to be boring at this point, but based off vibes I felt like Israel was really starting to lose support in the West. Reminding Westerners in France, US, UK etc how savage and violent Islamists can be seems like it was a huge mistake. People on the left will say white nationalists and right wing extremists are more violent than Islamists, but I really think this is obviously not true and they know it. Right wing terrorists that kill innocent people are usually lone wolf terrorists or in small cells. They also generally operate in their own countries. Islamist terrorists are like if thousands of these people got together in political organizations that have long term political goals. Reminding people that these are the kinds of people Israel has to deal with will garner them a lot of support and they also stupidly filmed their atrocities and put it on social media. I think people will generally support Israel here, at least for a little bit.
Some people are saying that this will kill other Arab countries recognizing Israel, but I think that will still happen anyway. Sometimes things are just inevitable, like the end of slavery or Jim Crow. I think this is a similar thing because it is in Saudi Arabia's long term interest to recognize Israel because they want to do business in the West and diversify away from oil. To do that, they need to be on somewhat decent terms with Israel. Plus, their country is rapidly modernizing and who knows if in 15 years young people in SA will even care that much.
It seems to me, Hamas just did a YOLO attack for really no long term gain. The only thing I can think of is they just want to cause chaos and see what happens because they have nothing to lose. Maybe they can shake things up and things turn out better for them.
Am I totally off here? I am woefully ignorant on this issue, but that's what I'm thinking.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
I just finished The Wager which was a quick and fun read. I'm going to read Days of Rage next. I tried reading Snow Crash but I thought it was one of the worst books I've ever read.
I just looked it up and at one point afterwards George Bush had a 92% approval rating. I would say that is pretty different from now. Obviously you can find examples of people disagreeing, but objective measures like polling and voting show it was a much different time. That link you posted was a year and a half after 9/11.
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