Frequent_Anybody2984
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Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
What's going on in the West Bank right now? I haven't seen much coverage of it.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
Harvard’s admissions doesn't let in the best though were are fighting in court to keep doing so
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
I actually bought a bunch of InBev and think they will be fine. They own so many brands that they can just spin stuff off and have Based Bud and Woke Bud. Your average conservative isn't going to realize Based Bud is owned by InBev in 10 years.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
I think it's a bit more complicated than that. I think there is a principal-agent problem here where the board and shareholders just want to sell beer and get fat divies every quarter, but the marketing department is probably full of wokes who feel exactly like you say.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
The Guardian view on the power of forgiveness: a freed hostage’s gesture should not be forgotten
Just violently take hostages (where some die) and then you can have a gesture that shouldn't be forgotten. The only thing that can't be forgotten is that they are radical Islamists and will Jihad if given the opportunity. You can't reason with them or negotiate. Leftists are incapable of understanding radical Islam.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
It's all bull shit jobs and lobbying for Left Inc. Giving them money is giving money to left wing failsons and faildaughters to "raise awareness". It bothers me so much that they can run this scam and nobody cares (see the reddit thread).
Do you think you and I could have a top level disagreement? I think it would be fun to hash this out at the top level with our best arguments. You are obviously very educated in philosophy and history yet you and I have completely different views, I think you are wrong straight up and I couldn't disagree more but you have been nothing but respectful and I have been sarcastic and in bad faith. Can we debate this and let everyone decide? We can keep our arguments to what we debated so far.
Edit: From what I see, we agree on everything just disagree on how we got here.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
I think we agree (we disagreed below)? It seems to me that certain candidates voted in on opposing the status quo are being criticized for doing exactly what they promised. This is what the point of democracy is. I respect them for holding firm on their values.
I would disagree on Omar though. I think the rest of the squad is a joke, but Omar actually seems to be ideologically consistent.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
Abolition was overwhelmingly driven by Christian zealots motivated by personal faith, and concern over the proliferation of inferior breeds of man was overwhelmingly driven by people appealing to scientific materialism and the supremacy of human reason over all
The South was also very Christian. It's not like the South in the Civil War was this bastion of rationality and inquiry compared to the North, and many were very Christian such as Stonewall Jackson. I agree with much of what you are saying, but I don't think it is a binary like OP was making it. For example, I do know that much of the "Scientific" racism came from the Enlightenment (hence why I stressed that the Founding Fathers were also scientifically racist in an earlier comment). But I just refuse to believe that the average racist White Southerner was meaningfully influenced by Rousseau in any way. I think it was just this is always how we have done it so this is what I believe.
That being said, @HlynkaCG is correct that Progressives downplay their role in racism and many bad things that happened because of "Trusting The Science". And I do understand why they would get annoyed by this and default to pushing back against that narrative because for a true Red Triber this must get annoying. And I would even say that "Scientific" racism was initially pushed and "discovered" because it was very useful to what the regimes in Europe wanted to be true. This is probably a very Foucault type argument on my end though.
So my disagreement with @HlynkaCG isn't that he is 100% wrong but instead they are massively simplifying complex historical forces that would have probably happened even if Rousseau or Hobbes were never born.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
I apologize for that sarcastic remark below. You have engaged respectfully and and in good faith so I shouldn't have said that. I would have deleted it but someone replied to it. But I do regret saying that and I normally don't do that. You just were frustrating me because you and I disagree so much. What's funny though is you and I probably agree on most things too, but I hyper focused on this one disagreement. So let us agree to disagree on this. I'm not trying to have an antagonistic and personal internet conflict with someone (completely one-sided on my part by the way).
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
I'm sorry but I'm done engaging with you. I don't even understand what you are trying to say or actually believe. From what I can gather, you think every person is either influenced by Rousseau or Hobbes. And every single bad thing that ever happened in the West was done by these Rousseau influenced people who are also left wing and Marxist and woke (and also supported slavery in the South, ran the Jim Crow South, and somehow are also now Antifa). And the right wing people influenced by Hobbes have never done anything wrong and are constantly stopping these dastardly Rousseau influenced people from doing bad things.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
I disagree. I've seen so many different things be called woke and I haven't seen anyone give it a good definition. I think my definition of it being the inverse of historical American values is a pretty good heuristic though. You take whatever Americans traditionally thought before the 1960's (or what wokes think they thought) and invert that and you get the woke position pretty reliably. For example, Manifest Destiny -> Stolen Land or We're a Christian Nation -> Christianity is oppressive or capitalism is good -> capitalism is bad.
For capitalism, I see leftists and socialists blame everything on capitalism. So you get stuff like the problem with X is actually capitalism for literally everything. So crime or inequality are apparently caused by capitalism even though they existed before capitalism.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
Who defines what a racist policy is and what racial inequality is though? There is a lot of subjectivity in there.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
Racism is a magical word that literally has no meaning in 2023. First of all, there is no agreed upon definition of it and this would be the case even if it wasn't abused by left wing activists. But it is abused by left wing activists and it means anything that has racial implications or even just the appearance of them that the left doesn't like. There are a bunch of others like woke, antisemitic, socialism, capitalism, neoliberalism, far-right, postmodern, critical race theory, Nazi, etc. and I could go on. These things had meanings at one point, but now they just mean my in-group or ideology thinks this person or thing sucks and we're going to call it one of these magic words so you know it's bad.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
Rousseau was born significantly after slavery in the US started. Columbus discovered North America pretty close to the conclusion of the War of the Roses so that is how far back we are talking here with race based slavery/colonialism. France passed racial hierarchy laws under the Sun King: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_Noir way before Rousseau was born. The English did as well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbados_Slave_Code
It is significantly more likely they were influenced by that legacy than anything Rousseau wrote, who these Confederate veterans had probably never heard of or read. Or were the Sun King and the British Empire proto woke left Marxist as well?
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
Okay so when did the KKK officially become part of the Left in your view? When it was founded by Confederate veterans or did it become woke left later? Or were Confederate soldiers also woke leftists and this predates the Civil War?
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
Was there a single one who thought whites and blacks could live next to each other as equals? I'm not aware of a single one. On the other hand, you had many who thought them to be naturally suited for slavery, and even if they opposed slavery, were willing to compromise on it and found having a united nation more important than outlawing race based slavery. I think it's pretty obvious they didn't care very much about the well being of blacks and found them to be inferior both biologically and spiritually.
But I agree using their political beliefs and mapping it onto today's is a pointless because they lived in a very different world. They were much closer to the Thirty Years' War than our own time. But OP seems to think that they were concerned with racial equality which is frankly absurd. They would have closer views on race to white nationalists than they would OP. But they would be very different from them as well. Nationalism in Europe was just barley getting started. It was a very long time ago.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
So just so I'm understanding this correctly, the KKK, George Wallace, and David Duke are/were essentially woke leftists and Marxists? And the people running the Jim Crow South and supporting the KKK were more or less motivated by the same ideology as The Black Bloc and Antifa? Is this what you are saying?
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
I meant that voting for a Republican is considered low status. If you are a giga Chad hedge fund manager voting for tax purposes then yeah you can get away with it. But if you're just some guy names Steve trying to make it in a high status industry and get laid then being a Republican is not a very good thing. I don't think we will get an updated version of "Reagan Democrats" anytime soon.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
Remember when the media pretended Twitter was about to die any day? Every single person in the media seemed to make that joke on every podcast they were on. And remember when they pretended that Threads was a legitimate threat to Twitter? Elon also seems to have outflanked the ADL by appealing to right wing Jews and they are coming to an uneasy truce. It seems like it's more or less the same a year ago except for the name change. Community notes is also a great change.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
Even if you take out HBD, they live in the middle of nowhere. How can they possibly generate wealth out there? I was just in the Midwest and the rural downs out there are straight up just dead and full of zombie opiate addicts wandering downtown. I was just in Peoria, IL and I have never seen such a dead rust belt city before. And this is with white people in the US. There is no opportunity for them where they live.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
Kushner isn't a politician though. He's a rich guy with connections. Ken Griffin identifies as a Reagan Republican and is also just a rich guy and not a politician.
Desantis is pretty terrible at campaigning nationally. Nixon had guys like Roger Ailes and Pat Buchanan running a highly sophisticated election campaign to get him better coverage in the MSM with normies. Desantis is hated by the MSM and seems doomed to be clowned on outside FOX.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
I think it goes to show how little the regime takes these kinds of people as threats. They can say this because they pose no threat and are often useful to the people running these countries. Meanwhile, the far right groups in the West get treated like a threat because they actually are. Say what you want about the trucker protest or Jan 6, but they actually threatened the regime and elites so they were dealt with harshly. There's a buffer zone on the left where they can be radicals and not really cause any issues or threaten anything. They are running up against it now with Palestine and Israel and finally getting serious push back so you can tell that is one stance that actually threatens the regime and the elites.
Frequent_Anybody2984
1yr ago
This shows the disconnect between leftists and Aboriginal leaders and what the actual goal was. Now the mask is off and the leftists see what they really believe.
Australia is our country. We accept that the majority of non-Indigenous voting Australians have rejected recognition in the Australian Constitution. We do not for one moment accept that this country is not ours. Always was. Always will be. It is the legitimacy of the non-Indigenous occupation in this country that requires recognition, not the other way around. Our sovereignty has never been ceded.
It's really that simple.
I've noticed this as well. You'll have secular, non-religious and well adjusted Muslims turn into borderline Jihadists over the topic of Israel and Palestine.They will also start believing in insane Alex Jones tier conspiracies. I was talking to one who told me that Hamas didn't kill any civilians at the Music Festival on purpose and they were caught in the crossfire of them fighting the IDF. Some Jews are just as bad too. There's SJW Jews who believe in intersectionality and every progressive cause that will sound like Hitler when talking about Palestinians. This issue is so toxic it's not even able to be debated. It's like the trans issue multiplied by a billion.
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