Evinceo
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That's "so little"?
That's.... set of true facts. But yeah, at the end of the day, it's one guy who used his ability to develop kompromat to leverage himself into a situation where he could live the amoral child rapist lifestyle he craved.
I wouldn't expect a Netflix documentary about him or Maxwell if he was just the tip of the iceberg. I would expect either his victims to be missing (they aren't) or the supposed Bill Gates/Hillary Clinton victims to exist (as far as I know, they don't.) Best I have for you is that prince from England; he done it. But I don't think it's a case of 'the elietes' all being secretly pedos or whatever. At least, not based on Epstein.
Epstein's connections got him out of jail, so someone somewhere is complicit. I don't think you can make the magical leap that everyone is complicit, or that they all partake in his crimes.
That's selling him a bit short.
My threshold for caring about this guy after trawling through his email is incalculably high. He's just not that interesting, as his resume indicates. I wasn't able to find anything spicy and neither, apparently, was anyone else, so now we're looking at his... art collection?
Seriously?
If you really believe that there's a grand conspiracy of elietes, find another one to pick on, otherwise it seems like there's just a fixation on this one dude that leads to fanfiction being written about him. It's a lot like with the fixation on Trump, except of course Trump was actually important for a while.
Why did you say you don't know how to insert links? You have inserted several.
I won't pretend to understand modern art, but your links for 'satanic' appear to be... that. I imagine a boomer trying to parse Doom Eternal would have a similarity freaked out reaction.
As for Podesta's art collection, he's the campaign manager for a failed presidential candidate from a while back. Him having off-putting art is hardly proof of some grand conspiracy.
This is an interesting topic because it is one that can't be discussed with cool heads.
I would actually say that it's more a case of people with cool heads not bothering to engage with it because it because there's so little to actually engage with.
Well jeez, nobody tell them that!
There's a real chance our elites would try t snuff that revolution out rather than let every ideal they ever scorned coalesce there.
Our elietes aren't going to look a gift horse like 'China unironically embracing The West' in the mouth. It would be a huge vindication for liberal values. It would be a geopolitical upset.
remember all the glowing new york times pieces on how China was a model for how the us should run its economy back in the 2010s
That was off the back of more liberal Hu Jintao. Xi has proven to be more authoritarian and more inclined to sabre rattle.
Winning elections is the reward?
Lockdowns made... some kind of sense in 2019/early 2020 when we had few other tools and the pandemic could have still turned out to be deadlier based on the reports coming out of China. In the past four-odd years conditions have changed. And anyway, Zero Covid has been a much more unhinged regime than the US lockdown ever was.
Those are only obviously onerous because most Americans rely on cars though.
This pattern would sand down the wacky edges that make this place interesting though.
nerdy demographic I would assume would be especially fastidious about video game history claims
I wouldn't be so sure. Look at the Billy Mitchell/Twil Galaxies drama. There was definitely an atmosphere of extreme credulity in the Spike TV era of gaming as well. I imagine a lot of lore that got laid down before the 10s may turn out to be less reliable than previously thought.
Rockets almost never launch humans into space. Does that imply that humans being launched into space isn't caused by rockets?
We regard car crimes as an acceptable cost for a lifestyle enabled by cars, so few people clamor to ban cars in the wake of car attacks. Guns are regarded by the left as chiefly a nuisance and not a critical tool that enables our way of life. Cars don't need a second amendment to protect them; the benefits are obvious.
The kind of scam he pulled off is pretty elaborate. The reason you'd avoid giving someone who's done crimes a platform is to avoid copycats. He's well know in his field already and I think there's little worry of unhinged members of the public deciding to 'do an FTX' in the same way that going postal is contagious.
So you do have experiences of being harassed non-sexually by junkies on public transit, but because it wasn't sexual you don't believe that junkie harassment might be sexual when directed at women?
I'm a man and my experience on public transportation has included several instances of being menaced by the crazies that have colonized the system. Never been physically attacked but was definitely planning my counter moves on multiple occasions. I have zero doubt that had I been a woman, 'come on, fight me' would have instead been 'come on, fuck me.' I'm secure in the knowledge that I can handle myself in a fight, but if I wasn't, I can see how you'd feel unsafe.
Also consider bystanders. When I see a crazy acting out on the train, yes I'm figuring out exactly the best angle to approach them from if I need to surprise them. But I'm not doing it loudly. I'm not drawing attention to myself. If he's being gross to someone, unfortunately from that person's perspective they're all alone. Imagine how that feels.
I'm glad you haven't had unpleasant encounters with the scum that plagues public spaces, but I wouldn't be so quick to doubt others when they say they have. Is it possible that the type of things they pick up on are things you're tuning out?
Romney and McCain were both up against the incredible charisma of Barak Obama. Either could have won handily over Clinton. Remember, Clinton lost to Obama and never really became a more compelling candidate afterwards.
Because of that, what he did was create a parallel group which oversaw stats reporting to stop the CDC from lying about it.
So in other words, dick-all.
we must remember what really happened during the COVID hysteria.
The rudderless response of a people with no leader.
Which one do you think would have turned unlikely voters who voted Obama in 2008 and 2012 into GOP voters
Rubio?
demanding the matter be investigated further
Was this the first time he was bagged, though, or the second?
Does 'investigate the matter further' mean trying to find the next dropped ball or chasing ghosts?
Same thing with Epstein's supposed suicide
Ok that one might be a real hit.
One of the people shot to death was trans.
Conspiracy: Do nothing, because if they have the power to let Epstein run rampant, surely you stand no chance.
Incompetence: You demand competence. You watch the Netflix documentary (no coverup here) and you look at your local politics to see if they're mishandling any cases similarly.
You see a pothole in the road. If you believe that the government has left it there intentionally to punish your community because it's too white, you're unlikely to call 411. If you believe it's because the public works department just didn't know about it because they're mortal, you call 411.
You seem to be contrasting conspiratorial thinking with blind trust in authority. I don't think that's the only alternative. I think the default assumption is that any given individual or group is foolish and treading water and build your hypothesis up from there.
I inverted that, I meant cut folks.
It leads to incorrect predictions if it makes predictions at all. It's usually used to explain rather than make useful predictions. It's model involves people smarter, more cooperative, and more disciplined than they really are. It promotes either inaction or ineffectual flailing.
Regardless of if it's actually onerous, observe that because many people drive the limitations would be obviously onerous. There's less of an explanatory hurdle.
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