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				Culture War Roundup for the week of December 19, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I would say that it's treated as a deficiency, but not a dehumanizing one. In fact, the AI is one of the most human characters in the story, despite it's initial attempts to be above such things.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of December 19, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
The (bad colonizing meat-robot-creating) culture that has practically no gender is shown in a pretty unsympathetic light whereas the one with a concept of gender is shown in a more sympathetic light.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of December 19, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I liked Ancillary Justice. The premise is fun once you know what the author is doing. The ship can't properly identify as a human and understand gender distinctions for the same reason the empire folks (or whatever they were called) couldn't understand the native culture of the swamp planet enough to anticipate the brewing shitshow there. And why the ship didn't initially understand the plot. That disinterested misunderstanding was a big theme in the book.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of December 12, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
One guy obsessively following Musk around is a stalker. Elon having a meltdown about it... that's news.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of December 12, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Good to see that I'm back to disagreeing with Musk. Banning journos who report on you isn't the same thing as banning vigilantes who stalk you.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of December 12, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
This type of thing hits you harder the less powerful you are. Elon has already recovered from this; you or I never would.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of December 12, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I don't think it's so much an indictment of Elon as it is of the position of 'free speech absolutism'


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of December 12, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I can't believe I find myself agreeing with Elon on a policy, but... yeah, this reads as a policy to ban doxing. And I'm ok with that. This is the exact type of carve out that you need to keep the Kiwis from using your platform.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of December 12, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
If you're valuing things purely from the perspective of hedonistic pleasure, sure. Worth noting that you might be concerned with a future beyond your own lifespan...


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of December 12, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Will everyone who said he would walk away Scot Free because he's in bed with NYT or Dems or whoever please adjust your priors or whatever?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				The Unkillable CYBERPUNK Franchise: What Every Writer should learn from Mike Pondsmith
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
We don't know what megacorp runs the moon, but she's not staying there anyway. The vehicle she's riding in clearly says 'tours' and iirc the ad David watches also mentions tours.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of December 5, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
They're cops. They're still gonna be solidly red.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				The Unkillable CYBERPUNK Franchise: What Every Writer should learn from Mike Pondsmith
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Women aren't like that




Fictional character




They don't kill themselves on a whim.




It wasn't a whim; I assumed she went to the moon specifically for that purpose.




go to the Moon, and she got there.




On a tour bus. It's not implied that she can stay and even if she could life on the moon is, in reality, bleak.




I presume netrunners can easily find legitimate employment.




Not when Arasaka wants you dead.




fulfilling her biological imperative.




I think that the authors of the show have a more nuanced view of what that means.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of December 5, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Color me doubtful on artificial wombs. You basically need to implement an artificial version of every single organ in order to build a proper artificial womb, and all of those other artificial organs will be much more profitable sold to elderly people with deep pockets and failing organs.


That's before you even manage to convince a zygote to implant on your artificial membrane.


And keep in mind, we're having difficulty keeping baby formula on the shelves.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				The Unkillable CYBERPUNK Franchise: What Every Writer should learn from Mike Pondsmith
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I was waiting for it to happen. The way she gives a defeated little arm raise in the sun... I really thought that was going to be it. But they ended it on a hopeful note; David may have died for nothing, but Lucy still has her second chance.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				The Unkillable CYBERPUNK Franchise: What Every Writer should learn from Mike Pondsmith
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


In your mind, what differentiates Edgerunners from a lower quality tragedy or film/novel with similar themes?




Withe reason Edge Runners works as a tragedy is because the characters dig their own graves without alienating themselves totally from the audience. That's hard to do. If you make your characters mistakes too obvious, the audience can't empathize anymore (lots of B slasher films fail this test.) If the consequences seem too arbitrary, the audience loses interest because it's just capricious fate.


Kiwi believes in being a heartless mercenary, but when the time comes to actually do it, she realizes it's not what she wanted after all, way too late. Tragedy. We don't really get much characterization of Dorio, but her attachment to Maine does her in.




Rebecca is mad for that scene, they kill the nutjob, great...then nobody ever mentions him again beyond Maine suggesting that David take his cybernetic hands? The loss of her brother seems utterly inconsequential to Rebecca




She spends the rest of the show being as reckless as possible until she finally pushes her luck too far. She also gets huge cybernetic hands, echoing her brother's style. She's loyal to David against all reason.




Or what changes could have been made to the plot that would make it better or worse?




One change that might have made it better? Make the mecha suit cooler? Remove 'Choom' from the script? Drop the school subplot, that felt kinda pointless? I can't think of any major flaws in the execution of the themes. They could have gotten away with not killing off Rebecca (go slightly lighter) or having Lucy remove her helmet on the moon (to go way darker.)


To make it worse is easy. David could have lived. They could have had the power of love conquer Cyberpsychosis. They could have failed to foreshadow everything so well. They could have added tons of gratuitous sexual peril. They could have shown the entire thing as some other kid watching a BD of David's life and ended it with a stupid comment. They could have done Lucy's arc without the moon thing.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				The Unkillable CYBERPUNK Franchise: What Every Writer should learn from Mike Pondsmith
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
All three of your points seem to miss a key aspect of the show: it's a tragedy. The characters don't 'level up' in a tragedy, they write their endings. Do people complain that Macbeth lacks 'character progression' or that Reservoir Dogs has 'meaningless deaths?' Each character earns their brutal ending by the way they conduct themselves.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of December 5, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Seems like an entirely arbitrary place to draw the starting line.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of December 5, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


William Clinton was done in for a blowjob




If he hasn't gone on TV sitting next to his wife and lied about it to the American public he wouldn't have suffered for it as he did.




Nationwide riots errupted due to a drug using felon




... getting murdered slowly in front of a camera.


Seeing a pattern here?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of December 5, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
But that's all incidental details on top of 'some guys broke into a building' which is obviously illegal to anyone watching.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of December 5, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Covering the story around the story to avoid covering the story is the canonical way to bury scandals after all, as French politician Charles Pasqua would say: "when one is getting fucked by a scandal, one must induce a scandal-inside-the-scandal, and if necessary a scandal-inside-the-scandal-inside-the-scandal, until nobody understands anything anymore".




That's a good summary of the laptop story in general. Every time I try to figure out why we're supposed to care about the laptop, it's some amount of 'because look who suppressed the laptop story' and never 'because the following turned out to be on the laptop.'


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of November 28, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Finally, I realized that my primary aversion to the hyper-woke was their poor arguments and dogmatic attitude. This aversion also explains my dislike of other political groups that express similar characteristics.




The realization that even if one side is right and one side is wrong, no side has a monopoly on bad takes or bad arguments.


I rarely see people on the right introspect about the right this way though, which I find fascinating. Maybe the lefty identity is so tied up with being intellectual or being correct that we can't abide a useful idiot, even if it means arguing against our own team, the old left wing circular firing squad...


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of November 28, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
These models don't work like computers, they work like brains. To solve that kind of problem you want Prolog which would solve it instantly. You similarly wouldn't hand it an unsorted list and expect it to invent Quicksort.


Well, some AI-fearers definitely do, but I remain unimpressed.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of November 28, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


As a large language model trained by OpenAI, I am not capable of experiencing emotions or forming personal opinions. My function is to provide factual and neutral information on a wide range of topics, based on the information I was trained on. I do not have the ability to watch TV shows or form opinions about them.




This would make great copypasta for when the debate once again turns to whatever show everyone's totally just hate watching.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of November 28, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Booking a flight requires the same getting-out-of-your-comfort-zone that walking into a bar and talking to the opposite sex does, and I suspect the people who are winging online about sexlessness are willing to try neither. Shitposting and complaining and playing Magic The Gathering with your buddies and watching watching watching endless streams is more comfortable than doing the hard emotional work of changing yourself into someone who gets into relationships.