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				Small-Scale Question Sunday for October 16, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Does anyone have recommendations for an automatic trash can that is easy to keep clean?


You can hose down a normal trash can, but an automatic trash can has seams and electronics that are not compatible with hosing.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
This might change my mind. Thanks.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


all of the 'surplus' available to them,




Surplus is an established economic concept, not something for scare quotes.




Otherwise, why do you value such items more than a near-identical one you could just buy on the market?




I do not fucking want to wake up and find my kitchen table replaced with $400 in cash even though that is what it is "worth" in some market sense. I would probably pay more much than $400 to have a table but anyone trying to find my price point is my blood enemy. That is valuable information. Mail me an offer if you want it. Tell me how much it is worth to you.


People have things to do with their day besides deal with transaction bots.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Yes, that's the trick. You ask a person "at what price would you voluntarily part with this piece of property?"




No. You come to me with an offer and earnest money, and I decide if it is worth my time to bother listening to you based largely on the number.


It is aggravating to price everything in my life, knowing that I am fucked if I get it wrong because they are out to get me.


If someone values my home at $3 million because of the feng shui, they can offer me $2 million and keep $1 million of surplus for themselves. $2 million is more than I value my current home. Now someone is going to try "we already know you are a whore we are just negotiating on the price" to figure out exactly where below $2 million my value is and that is when I tell them to eat shit. If I have to defend my property constantly then I might as well go full ancap and blast anyone who steps on it.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Indecent Proposal in America


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Friday Fun Thread for October 14, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I have always wanted to have a Newtonian spaceship combat game but figured it would be too hard to manage. Are there better candidates here?


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


the value of what they think their home/land is truly worth, with the caveat being that if someone offers to purchase at said price they are legally compelled to accept it




This is even worse. Under either the present system or full gay space communism georgism, at least I do not wake up one morning and get told I have to move out within the next month.


You are robbing the entire owner surplus here. I am sure the grocery store would like to figure out exactly how much I am willing to pay for a loaf of milk or a jar of bread, or the car salesman to figure out exactly what a car is worth to me.


There is being more economically efficient, and then there is negotiating with the swarm of AI drones outside my house exactly how much my child's life is worth to me compared to their value of him in paperclips.


I have a bunch of things in my house that I would like to sell for their market price but the transaction costs are too high to bother. That is essentially negative surplus for me. But I also own things that I value much more than their market value in cash, which is positive surplus, so it balances out. So the idea of a future where I lose the positive surplus but lose the negative surplus is extremely distressing.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Even under the "government owns it and just leases it to you" model, land still is not worthless, the same way a landlord's building is not worthless to the people who live there.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I had kind of moved, weakly, towards accident (despite previously saying it was not). But this strongly suggests some deliberate agent did it and they do not want to reveal their monitoring capabilities that shows how.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Friday Fun Thread for October 14, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Most positive thing I will say about the finale:


They tried something different and a lot of people will never do that.


I do not mind She-Hulk talking to the audience. She was doing that before Deadpool. But robbing the audience of a pay-off as a joke is, well,  quite unsatisfying.


They said that they were dealing with Jennifer Walter's problems in her life, but then all the problems magically went away. I was going to be happy that they were not solved in a big cinematic CGI fight, but there was nothing. There was not even an explanation for her getting her job back, how she changed into She-Hulk at the end, why Titania showed up, or why Titania is now at least on her side.


On Titania, I expected her to be on Jen's side at the end, all the way from episode 1, since no woman is ever really a bad guy in a chick flick, but the explanation is "lol so zany if this happened".


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I kind of like the LVT on economic grounds but every time I listen to the people who want it I feel a great need to go learn how to use a gun.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Even the Great Barrington Declaration called for devoting resources to help isolate the elderly while everyone else moved on, and not just leave the elderly to figure it out or not whatever.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
That sounds like double-dipping and is very frightening.


EDIT How do you establish land value without private sales? This is always a big problem in pure global communism where you lose access to price signals.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Of course, most likely no one else wants a $250K house on land they can't afford to pay the taxes on,




The hypothetical was that the land value was going way up. If no one wants to buy it then the value is not there.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Okay, so where does the money go?


At the start of 1990 I pay $100K+$100K for land+house by writing a check for $200K to the current owner of land+house.


Land value goes up kind of slowly for the first 15 years (say it goes from $100K to $400K, around 10% a year). I pay LVT of $5000 at the start and $20,000 at the end.


Then it really takes off, going up 50% per year. By 2010 the land is just over $3,000,000, and I decide "fuck this" at the $150K tax bill and sell.


So I sell for $3000K+$250K at the start of 2010 and get a check for $3,250,000 from the guy I sold the land to.


I still get that check. Even retroactively applied against all the back taxes, I come out ahead.


...  Unless I decide to keep on living on the the $3 million land for 20 years. But I am choosing to leave nearly $3 million on the table for doing that. Being able to keep on living in one place is nice but not $3 million nice.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


If, for reasons beyond their control, the price of their property increases, they can be financially forced from their homes,




Is the windfall from selling a house + expensive land gone under Georgism? If my land goes from being worth 200K to being worth $5M, I still get to pocket that $4.8M, right? I think so because the check from the buy er has to so somewhere, but maybe LVT breaks this in a way I cannot understand.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
"Substantial" is probably low six figures. Once he had enough of a case to get to discovery, CNN and WaPo are interested in it going away even with a very high likelihood of success on their part. He certainly was not wearing a "I am a multi-millionaire" suit in his appearance during the RNC.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Also, what are the arguments against LVT




As you say in your comment, a lot of land value assessments are completely random and depend on how much time you can spend fighting the tax collector assessor. How well the government runs property taxes is a good proxy for how well they will run land taxes.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


Putting aside the logical incoherence of transmission without infection




Yes, the thing that I never said, it is logically incoherent. Yes.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
You are looking at "how do you get A without B" when I am looking at "given B can we stop A" which is a different thing.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					


It wasn't until after Biden's assuming of office that ultra-rapid vaccination rollouts,




Because as of January 20, 2021, vaccines were still incredibly precious and our elite were fighting with each other to be first in line. It was about two months before my very elderly parents got theirs.


Now, did the media blue-checks  go from "lol of course there will be no vaccine mandates, look how people are fighting to get them, stop worrying" to "lol of course there are vaccine mandates that is what it means to live in a society" in the space of a few months? Yes.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
You are saying "stops infection" where I am saying "stops transmission."


I guess when I said "only testing" I should have said "only proving."


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
Biden will say during press conferences that he is not allowed to answer questions, and sometimes I wonder if this is a cry for help.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
I am kind of worried about exactly how we should hold someone responsible for enabling other lunatics and worried that Jones is a particularly bad test case to decide it.


But if Jones does not give enough of a shit to show up to court, I do not see why I should give a shit about him, either. Asking me to care more than the subject is ripe for abuse.


				

				

						

							

								
							

						


						
					

				
			


			

	


			
			
				

			
		

	






		

			
			
				Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022
			
		

	

	

	

		
			

			

				

			

		

			


				

					
AI artbots have put known artist's written signatures onto art. All the comic book people who copied Rob Liefeld's  style in the 90s did not write his name on their "art."