Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
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Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
1yr ago
The fact that chronic pain is so well correlated with aging suggests that for the majority of people there is some underlying physical degeneration coupled with a culturally/psychologically mediated experience of pain.
Not necessarily. Perhaps it suggests that "everyone knows" chronic pain is well correlated with ageing, so only old people can overcome the subconscious suspension of disbelief and delude themselves that they have it.
In the same way that no Malaysian-Chinese women worry about penis theft. It's all in their heads, but the scenario in their heads has boundaries.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
1yr ago
Being poor, uneducated and not independent is typically a sign of either laziness or low intelligence.
Sure, in reality. But in the leftist model of how the world works? Being poor, uneducated and not independent is a sign that you're oppressed, and thus deserving.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
1yr ago
I'm curious about this. To what extent are his views actually his choice?
"His views are his choice, our choice is to not associate with him" is a lie from both directions.
If newspapers really, really cared what their cartoonists think, they'd have their on-staff investigative reporters do PI work on 'em. They don't, because what they actually care about from revealed preferences is their cartoonist's public-facing, loudly broadcasted views. If it's not gonna cause them PR problems, they don't care, and if it's not a broadcasted view, it's not gonna cause them PR problems. No-one cares if you don't really think General Secretary Andropov is a good leader, so long as you keep your opinions to your fucking self, comrade.
The other direction in which this is a lie is that it's not the newspaper's choice either. They're being coerced, extorted, by (their expectations of) their own readership. That's what a "PR problem" is - a problem that wouldn't matter unless the public's reaction mattered. If it were 1950 and Dilbert was being published mostly in the South, Adams' comments wouldn't be a PR problem, they'd be a PR boon, and no-one would get cancelled; which serves to prove that the newspaper is similarly constrained by the political milieu in which it operates.
Admittedly, this sort of analysis is mildly comolicated by the recent dynamic of entryism into newspapers by actual ideological zealots who would like to use investigative reporters as Stasi thoughtpolice on their own colleagues and don't care if the newspaper goes bankrupt so long as Brown Scare enemies get cancelled, but I don't think those people are making the command decisions. Yet.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
1yr ago
Sam Brinton is a proclaimed non-binary person (NB, or enby)
I've been coming across the term "enby" for months without knowing what it means (or, given context, daring to look it up). So thanks, this hard-hitting reporting justifies my continued doomscrolling!
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
1yr ago
I do think there's an underlying question that's being ignored here. Can exposure to Progressive/Academic models of sex, gender and power or at least, the popularized crude forms, result in Gender Dysphoria or something approaching such? Not universally, of course. But are there people susceptible to this in a way, where exposure to these things might result in significant mental and emotional trauma?
My contention is that this is where a majority of contemporary homosexuality comes from, never mind gender dysphoria.
It's not that leftist memes swept away bigotry and now everyone's out of the closet and able to be their authentic selves without fear of ostracism / lynching; no, buddy, you just got memed, tricked, into reneging against your genetic imperatives by a slick "mere exposure" advertising campaign.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
1yr ago
Being replaced economically I don't care. I have half a mind to quit society and go live inawoods anyway. If everyone's getting laid off then at least I'll have a good excuse.
Being replaced as the dominant lifeform on the planet I do care about, which is why I've been advocating EMP-bombing every computer science lab in the world and burning all technological textbooks for some time now. Why more X-risk enthusiasts don't clamour likewise I don't really know, I can only darkly infer that it belies a lack of conviction on their part.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
1yr ago
He's already blown through a few, what is to stop him hitting on you, harassing you if you turn him down, or even turning nasty?
What's to stop him?
Err, the other social barriers?
Just because he steamrolled one doesn't reduce the resistance of the others to zero.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
1yr ago
Not to mention the fact they even bothered to bring up her being Yoruba as though white nationalists would care in the slightest what variety of black person she is, as others have mentioned.
This was the smoking gun for me, yeah. It has the distinct whiff of someone fishing for the upvotes / collective immune response of her ingroup ("defend me fellow Yoruba-sisters!") and having done so at the expense of the complete collapse of a credible impression of the outgroup.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
1yr ago
I think this line of reasoning does not demonstrate what you think it demonstrates.
If 0% of the men are defective and 60% of the women are insufferably defective, then the 40% non-defective women get married to 40% of the men, leaving 60% of the men who can't find a woman that's not insufferable.
So you'd still get unmarried men despite there being no problem with them.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
1yr ago
I cant point to any character defects, but I agree that there must be something there
Maybe you should be looking for character defects in the women of their cohort.
If the men aren't married, but the defect doesn't lie in them, then by process of elimination...
Oh cool, this is the second time I've had interpersonal experience of a discussion topic. Last one was my Eskimo brother on two degrees of separation, and now I'm down to one degree of separation. I've never been on the EA forums or kept up with their membership, but I knew Owen IRL decades ago. We were in the same ieado club, lol.
Suffice to say, I'm a lot more convinced of the "Autistic nerd thinks he's being friendly and helpful by offering his guest room, proceeds to get lied about by clout-chasers" narrative than the "Sex-pest" narrative.
Musa al-Gharbi, a sociologist at Columbia University
"Wokeism is winding down, says diversity hire who took a Legacy American's prestige job"
When even the anti-woke argumentation is getting outsourced to extra-civilizational immigrants, it's hardly evidence FOR the proposition, is it? The headline next to the author feels like some kind of ironic joke.
I therefore think rather that if the rate of change is slowing down - big if, Musa is hardly convincing either by his evidence or by ad hominem - it's only because the other demographics' elites have already captured all the spoils they actually want.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
1yr ago
Forgive me for being superficial, but I'm betting that thousands of US soldiers lost the opportunity to have sex with US women because of the transferred disgust these women felt because of the massacre.
You bet that way if you want, I'm betting that transferred "dangerous bad boy" vibes led to thousands of US soldiers getting more sex from US women.
The median woman loves a man in uniform, and not because she think he's making flower necklaces and rescuing puppies while he's wearing it.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
1yr ago
Eventually Hispanics will become the majority in America anyway. They won't buy into HBD either, but their lack of white guilt means they also won't care very much about the black excuse industry.
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Objectively speaking I'd say Hispanics should be MORE vilified by wokeism. Your generic White might be a Swede or an Austrian, who never colonized anyone. Hispanics definatly descend from the particularly cruel and exploitative Spanish or Portuguese Empires - the ones who led the way and taught all the other Europeans how to be mean to foreign continents.
Once the Hispanics rise to a dominant economic / political position, you can bet the grievance industry will remember that part of the Age of Discovery, instead of pretending that Original Sin year was 1619.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
1yr ago
I've never heard any mechanism proposed either.
Is it not usually something along the lines of "Different backgrounds = different perspectives + more domain information"?
I watched a documentary on the Yorkshire Ripper the other day, and (the show alleged) that the retrospective enquiry into "Why did it take so long to catch him" concluded that, because the task force was composed near-exclusively of set-in-their-ways Old Boys 1970s Norf FC supporters, they for years stuck to the theory that any working-class woman out unchaperoned at night was a prostitute, therefore the Ripper was targeting prostitutes, and that made them incorrectly focus their inquiries in that direction. Whereas if they'd had a few women in senior police roles maybe they could have said "Hey wait a minute, a women out at night isn't automatically a whore".
How this lesson against groupthink applies to other industries I'm not sure, but if you're marketing consumer goods then it might be profitable if you have a gay or a black to ask them what's the "in" colours amongst the minority community this season, or something, idk.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
1yr ago
Because all the new city officials who would bring those criminal proceedings think "There but for the grace of God go I".
It's the same reason that normal Presidential administrations don't dig through the dirty laundry of previous Presidential administrations - because if you do it to the last guy, what's to stop the next guy doing it to you? Sure, the guilty go free, but that's better than e.g. Brazilification, where everyone's campaigning from their prison cells so they can overturn their own politicised convictions.
Don't sanction the city, sanction the people. The city didn't delete texts, people did. Throw those people in jail
I said it with regards to a suggestion last month about making examples of gain-of-function researchers for Covid, and I'll say it again here: you can't fine people for fucking up on high-skills jobs, because if you do you'll never get competent applicants for those positions - they'll go study a discipline with a career path that doesn't carry a jail risk, instead. So then you'll only get incompetent applicants who didn't have the brains to switch to a less risky career, having incompetent people in the position is more dangerous than having criminal people in the position.
This sort of thing is one sphere of human activity where holding people responsible for their crimes is actively detrimental to the greater good.
Sorry, but the current (terrible) practice of punishing a faceless organisation is nevertheless the least terrible of all the options. Well, aside from encouraging voters to stop electing crooks, but no-one's cracked that problem since Pericles.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
1yr ago
Most people who want to discredit conspiracy theorists actually know very little about the subject and the conspiracy theorist actually knows a great deal more (albeit often with his own bias that misleads him).
Well this exact effect is exactly why (in a historical sense) this website exists, isn't it? Scott amputated spicy discussions from his blog because people who knew more than him about spicy conspiracy Topic X kept derailing every discussion about every other mundane Topic Y by claiming (with evidence derived from their greater knowledge) that Topic X was actually closely related to Topic Y and dragging entire comment sections into the flames.
Fast forward several subsequent additional amputations and here we are.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
1yr ago
Nah, not identifying the guy is the most decent thing she did in that entire kerfuffle.
Well, exactly. The level of decency required to respect the anonymity of someone she saw as a sex pest is incongruous with the absence of decency required to try derailing her own entire movement for the sake of a humblebrag that she's so hot she gets hit on inappropriately.
It's what makes me, also, suspicious that the entire interaction was made up out of whole cloth. The ratio of flattery to evidence is too high.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
1yr ago
Memocide sounds like a word someone made up so they can claim that anyone who corrects their BS is "literally Hitler".
Because from the definition as written, striking geocentrism out of the textbooks is a flavour of genocide.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
1yr ago
But I personally have learned that the notion that we can compartmentalize, and get along with each other, is one of the most important values to me
I don't mind being nice to people who ideologically hate me.
It would be wise, however, not to actually finance their arms purchases for the Culture War.
and I do feel that I'd be missing out by seeing it on my tiny laptop screen several months after release
Tiny laptop screen I can't help you with, but camrip torrents are typically available within 24 hours of opening day for any major release.
And I know you "inb4"d this, but still, you did correctly identify the fundamental problem, and it would be doing you a disservice to tell you how to treat the symptoms but not also the disease. To reiterate your own knowledge back at you: Stop Consooming Children's Media, it's the only long-term solution.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
1yr ago
This was going to be my answer, so thanks for doing the work for me. But just to chime in the chorus: yes, the critical missing piece from OP's hypothesis is that "skills to be good at job X" are very dissimilar from "skills to be good at running a company which operates in market X".
Nothing. I think nothing will happen.
The frog will boil a little more, but as long as the crime rate keeps creeping up 1% per month instead of 5000% per day, people will just... get robbed more. As long as the electrical brownouts keep extending 1% per month instead of 5000% per day, people will just... adapt to doing their cooking in advance rather than on demand.
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