ArmedTooHeavily
Whatever happened? A breach in the very unity of life, a biological paradox, an abomination, an absurdity, an exaggeration of disastrous nature. Life had overshot its target, blowing itself apart. A species had been armed too heavily – by spirit made almighty without, but equally a menace to its own well-being. Its weapon was like a sword without hilt or plate, a two-edged blade cleaving everything; but he who is to wield it must grasp the blade and turn the one edge toward himself.
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ArmedTooHeavily
3mo ago
And yet, history is replete with nations making fundamental scientific discoveries before anyone else and using those to their advantage militarily before their competitors catch up. One way we know that this has happened in the US is that a scientist makes a breakthrough that could be militarily useful, that breakthrough is then immediately classified, and then other scientists are briefed in and conduct classified research and development based on the breakthrough. That can give you a significant first mover advantage because everyone else is still at the starting line, waiting to discover the fundamental breakthrough, and you're racing forward.
Also the entire premise of this situation is that it wasn't successfully concealed and China now has it as well.
ArmedTooHeavily
3mo ago
Perhaps there is some physics research that doesn't require a 500 kilometre synchrotron.
ArmedTooHeavily
3mo ago
The idea that the huge uptick in UFO sightings in the last ~5 years is due to china catching up to the US in whatever this secret "antigravity" propulsion system is holds some water with me. Something has definitely been happening. To quote the email:
What we have been seeing with "drones" is the operational use of gravitic propulsion systems powered aircraft by most recently China in the east coast, but throughout history, the US.
There have been a lot of military sightings of UFOs in the last five years and it really appears like they really are a mystery to the military, or at least the military people who see them. Among people who assume the craft are terrestrial (they obviously are) the prevailing theory has been that they are American tech being used on unknowing American military assets, both as a test of the capabilities and perhaps as a show of force with an "FYI that's us" note quietly slipped to the Chinese. I think that might explain some (most notable the USS Nimitz Tic Tacs), but not all the encounters, and I think that there's an American-centric bias that precludes a lot of people considering they might be somebody else's tech.
This is a particularly crazy example, and is exactly what I'd expect a chinese show of force of drones with secret propulsion tech to look like: https://www.twz.com/43561/mysterious-drone-swarms-over-navy-destroyers-off-california-went-on-for-weeks
ArmedTooHeavily
3mo ago
You'll notice I didn't use the word "antigravity" in my post, and in general I think the posters here missing the forest for that specific tree and getting a little fixated on it as a literal term.
I think that the tech being public in a more rudimentary form makes it much more likely that it exists in a more capable form on classified projects.
ArmedTooHeavily
3mo ago
Seconded, see the latter bit of my post here: https://www.themotte.org/post/1322/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/283449?context=8#context
ArmedTooHeavily
3mo ago
That is the claim made by the guy who blew up the cybertruck, not a claim made by OP.
ArmedTooHeavily
3mo ago
Sergeant Livelsberger...had written in a notes app on his phone that the country was “headed toward collapse.”
“This was not a terrorist attack,” the note said. “It was a wake-up call. Americans only pay attention to spectacles and violence. What better way to get my point across than a stunt with fireworks and explosives?”
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/03/us/las-vegas-tesla-explosion-soldier-ptsd-notes.html
ArmedTooHeavily
3mo ago
Bingo.
ArmedTooHeavily
3mo ago
For what it's worth:
I was told several years ago by someone I trust that there is a US military aircraft that has an alternative propulsion system that allows it to disable it's conventional engines and cruise at speed totally "dark", no heat signatures and no noise, and that the method of propulsion involved something like applying a significant electrical charge to the leading and trailling edges of the aircraft. I know this guy had a job in the military that would have exposed him to this information in the course of his work, and he was a smart, level headed person.
I've always been interested in secret government projects, especially planes, and the coincidental evidence I've dug up over the years seems to point to electro-gravitics or something similar being a well-developed and classified technology.
I'm leaning towards the drone thing being true.
Incidentally, while we're talking about it, I think that some of the most high-profile UFO sightings of the past and also recently (most notably the USS Nimitz "tic tac" videos) are this technology: https://www.otherhand.org/home-page/area-51-and-other-strange-places/bluefire-main/bluefire/particle-beams-and-saucer-dreams/
Publicly acknowledged (though in a different scope) here: https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2019/07/19/pentagon-scientists-are-making-talking-plasma-laser-balls-for-use-as-non-lethal-weapons/
ArmedTooHeavily
3mo ago
Buying Twitter might turn out to be the most impactful thing he's ever done.
ArmedTooHeavily
3mo ago
It used to be that people would curse God when they were struck down by fate, now they curse insurance companies.
ArmedTooHeavily
3mo ago
"For freedom and equality are sworn and everlasting enemies, and when one prevails the other dies. Leave men free, and their natural inequalities will multiply almost geometrically"
-Will Durant
ArmedTooHeavily
3mo ago
I'll take a swing at it: some people are incapable of good decision making about specific things, in this case gambling. They are effectively mentally incompetent in this narrow area but are otherwise generally mentally competent enough to be responsible for themselves. Therefore, similar to how we don't allow children or the insane to buy guns, we should ban people who have demonstrated this incompetence from gambling.
ArmedTooHeavily
4mo ago
Why? If you actually believed the things you were saying, you'd do it to make free money. It would also greatly increase your intellectual credibility.
I would go over your objections one by one to demonstrate that they're just excuses (I'll make a high dollar bet with you, trustworthy escrow agents exist, etc), but obviously they are just excuses and there's no way you would actually put skin in the game to back up your bloviating.
ArmedTooHeavily
4mo ago
Are you taking bets on any of this?
ArmedTooHeavily
4mo ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griggs_v._Duke_Power_Co.
Basically the supreme court decision that outlawed blanket IQ testing for jobs because of its disparate impact on blacks.
ArmedTooHeavily
4mo ago
The one time I asked a doctor, he told me that donating a pint of blood cost closer to 2000 calories for your body to replace.
ArmedTooHeavily
4mo ago
More or less 100% of people who refer to it as "the JQ" are using it as you describe.
ArmedTooHeavily
4mo ago
It's not reasonable to substitute some idealized, hyper efficient cost for what education actually costs. Could it be cheaper? Obviously. But $6k a month (or whatever) is what it currently actually costs.
As a side note, you are right about "for that much money you could ___", and that's why taxes are collected at gunpoint.
ArmedTooHeavily
4mo ago
What's a "sailer confounder"?
ArmedTooHeavily
5mo ago
I am opposed to the government funding the practice of religion on the basis of separation of church and state. This seems to obviously violate that. Am I missing anything here?
ArmedTooHeavily
5mo ago
Yeah, and it looks like both were incendiary devices placed on the exterior of the boxes. That disqualifies criddlers, so now my money is on anarchists.
ArmedTooHeavily
5mo ago
G502 and a pretty large mousepad.
ArmedTooHeavily
5mo ago
I think you have a massively optimistic idea of the competence of law enforcement.
I mostly agree, very risky to reveal new military tech before it's fully tested. But I personally think these are mature technologies being used in a show of force, not prototypes being tested.
They have appeared in very many places; the article I linked is about them appearing out to sea off the coast of California. That is a very difficult place to deploy anything, especially for American adversaries. It sends a very strong message about naval capability and threat.
The article I link talks about the ships trying to shoot them down. Did you read it?
Don't get too fixated on "antigravity" as meaning anything technically specific. "Novel propulsion system" is probably how you should think of it.
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