AppleyOrange
4d ago
Georgia. 2024.
Give me a link.
I'm not expecting anything conclusive. But Trump's poll watchers and attorneys don't seem to be claiming there was any fraud in Georgia, and the various fraud proponent parasites don't seem to be interested.
So I'm not asking for evidence.
Where's the rank speculation of vote fraud in 2024 Georgia?
AppleyOrange
4d ago
So you believe there was fraud in 2020 and 2024, but no evidence of fraud in either years?
AppleyOrange
4d ago
Maybe Georgia sent poll watchers home in 2020 because they were worried about them getring enough sleep.
Nonsense.
AppleyOrange
5d ago
So why didn't Trump find evidence of it in 2024?
AppleyOrange
5d ago
Ok. You're just refusing to engage with the argument.
If you think 2020 and 2024 were both legitimate, isn't Georgians being more excited about Harris imminently plausible?
No, it's not. It's laughable.
And I note you continue to offer a hypothesis.
AppleyOrange
5d ago
I offered one: vote counting stopped simultaneously across several swing states, poll watchers were sent home, then huge pro-Biden ballot drops were delivered. If you can't respond to that, this is not an argument, this is just two people posting text.
That's not an explanation for how Kamala managed to get more votes without being caught in similar fraud.
I'm honestly not sure what you even want me to respond to. I am not saying that nothing sketchy happened in 2020. I'm saying how is fraud in 2020 and fraud in 2024 consistent. Your response of "but 2020!" is a literal non-sequitor.
Again: comparing two numbers from two different events without any context is apples-to-oranges. Harris got more votes in Fulton County than Biden did: ok, what does that mean? How do we sort out confounding variables? I weighed 100 pounds four years and 150 pounds today, I must be getting fat! (I was 8 then and 12 now, I've put on one and a half feet and I'm junior varsity swim.)
This looks like sophism because you don't have a coherent narrative. You know people will laugh at the idea that Georgians were earnestly more excited about Harris than Biden. You know that "they got better at fraud" makes no sense with them 1) losing and 2) Trump's people being on guard for fraud. You decline to provide an explanation because you have none that are credible, and hence: "like, apples and oranges, man...".
Same state. 4 years apart. Same office. One candidate the same, the other previously on the ticket.
It's Gala vs Red Delcious. And if that distinction is relevant, you ought to be able to explain why, rather than vaguely complain about the difference.
AppleyOrange
6d ago
Jesus, you made my point far better than I could. Thank you.
AppleyOrange
6d ago
Page was created from scratch on Nov 16 2020. I wouldn't bet on a 2024 update.
AppleyOrange
6d ago
Georgia flipping blue in 2020 excited more blue voters to vote in 2024
Why don't you put forth a hypothesis that you personally take seriously.
They learned to cheat better than in 2020, but not good enough to win.
They didn't cheat THIS time, but Harris excited GA voters s o mich that she made up all the 2020 cheating and then 75k more.
These hypotheses are laughable. I don't see any that make sense, but I don't believe in 2020 Fraud.
If you believe in 2020 Fraud, you should be able to offer a coherent explanation.
AppleyOrange
6d ago
So you're saying the same amount of fraud happened as in 2020, but there's no evidence this time despite Trump's people watching diligently?
AppleyOrange
6d ago
And if you believe that this event was used to squeeze a substantial sum of ballots into the count, how did Harris similarily squeeze a substantial sum of ballots into the count in 2024 without anyone noticing? She did better than Biden by 75k votes.
AppleyOrange
6d ago
That lists the 2020 election as an "open case" but not 2024.
AppleyOrange
6d ago
Yes, that's the answer I understand.
But I also understand people here to still believe there was fraud in 2020. And that doesn't seem easily reconcilable woth what happened in 2024 and Trump's people being "on guard".
Edit: Ya'll a bunch of fucking cowards downvoting while not defending your beliefs.
In 2020, Biden got 2,473,633 votes in Georgia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United _States_presidential_election_in_Georgia
In 2024, Harris got 2,548,014 votes in Georgia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election_in_Georgia
I hear that Republicans stopped the democrats from stealing the election again with their superior election observation efforts this year.
But how come we haven't seen any evidence of the fraud Harris had to perpetuate to maintain and improve on Biden's 2020 numbers in Georgia?
AppleyOrange
12d ago
Put up some quotes that compare the two campaigns.
AppleyOrange
13d ago
If this is true, you should be able to point to specific stats showing that change in preparation.
So. How many more lawyers did Trump have?
AppleyOrange
13d ago
The problem being that Trump and republicans were talking about vote fraud in September 2020. If there was fraud, it was not a sneak attack, but rather something subtle enough to get by them while they were watching. So why not again?
AppleyOrange
14d ago
has anyone here updated with regards to the chance of fraud in 2020?
Yes.
The chance of fraud in 2020 went down, since if the Ds did it before, they would've done it again.
AppleyOrange
26d ago
Also the fraudsters have another authority to back up their claims.
AppleyOrange
1mo ago
Nah, I was asking about the mechanics of the abbrevation. Thanks!!
AppleyOrange
1mo ago
Why?
AppleyOrange
2mo ago
It appears much more correct to say he was an anti-Trump republican.
AppleyOrange
2mo ago
Careful selection of "politically driven" rather than "politically motivated." July 13th doesn't seem to have an agenda aligned with either of the political sides.
Another reason for the comparison: they both have the same direct solution.
AppleyOrange
2mo ago
Because both events involve guns being used in ways we don't want guns to be used?
That does seem like a flaw, but it doesn't seem like a reason for the US to withdraw before 10 years.
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