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I said that it was to the best of my knowledge. I am not an expert compared to professional chirurgeons, but compared to those who think a vagina is a lack of penis, and imagine the male-to-female operation to be something akin to the work of Lorena Bobbit, I think I'm doing fairly well, much in the same way as, while I do not claim be able to run the U. S. Defense Department better than James Mattis, I am fairly certain I could do a better job than Pete Hegseth.
And despite not being a professional "chirurgeon", I can do a better job than you. So you were obviously wrong to arrogate to yourself the responsibility of "correcting the record" on bottom surgery. (There's actually a specific Facebook group devoted to cataloguing this kind of behaviour.) If I ask someone if they can drive a car, I want to know if they can actually drive a car. Being able to drive a car better than an amputee who drank a fifth of vodka is not a high bar to clear.
This is a common misconception held by many men, leading to an epidemic of bed-time headaches among their wives.
Har de har har. You knew perfectly well that I meant that female people have no flesh between their legs which could be used to fashion a crude facsimile of a penis.
The same applies for cis-men, who were born biologically male in all respects, identify as men, and suffer injuries between their legs. Does this make such a man less male, or is this merely an appeal to disgust?
It's not an appeal to disgust: it's pointing out that you were mistaken. You described a phalloplasty as "the same [as a vaginoplasty] but in the other direction". You were wrong: there was a massive piece of the procedure that you were conspicuously omitting. The appropriate response to this being pointed out to you is to admit your error, not to throw a strop, bring up a completely irrelevant "analogy" and say "oh whatever, stop trying to make gender-affirming care sound gross!"
I could just as easily make the same argument in the opposite direction: that by failing to accurately describe what a phalloplasty entails, you were either ignorant of the procedure, or you were knowingly trying to make it sound less invasive than it really is. Neither is a great look.
I am getting just a wee bit tired of the snide insults.
I will happily desist, if you can provide me with a better explanation for why you insist on using antiquated terms that aren't even terms of art in the professions under discussion.
I note that this is an opinion piece, and that Valentine doesn't actually show where they got their figures from:
Of nearly 3,500 trans people attending the UK’s largest clinic in London just 16 of them – 0.47 per cent – had any regrets. And an analysis of studies from around the world found a regret rate of one per cent for gender-affirming surgeries. It is hard to compare different interventions (as I say, we’re all different) but, as a yardstick, the regret rate for knee replacements is 17 per cent and for hip replacements five per cent.
This paragraph doesn't contain any hyperlinks. I asked you for a source for the claim that knee replacement surgery has a higher regret rate than gender-affirming care, and instead you provided me with an example of someone else making the exact same unevidenced claim as you.
D. F. McLaughlin?
From the source you provided "The jury acquitted Patnode of second-degree murder and convicted him of second-degree manslaughter".
Paris Lee?
From the source you provided "Ward was convicted of voluntary manslaughter in May 2025." I understand a retrial is pending, but Ward certainly hasn't "gotten away with murder" yet.
I suppose technically being convicted of manslaughter rather than murder is "getting away with murder", but I'm not aware of a single person who used the "trans panic" defense and then walked, which is the affirmative claim that dozens of trans activists have independently made to me. Show me an example of that, and we can talk.
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47m ago
Chest binders are generally considered a subset of social transition, and yet can cause serious physical damage.
Even then, I'm sure you would agree that a male child who has been wearing female clothes and referred to by female pronouns from the age of 10 onwards is far more likely to seek medical transition than a male child who has not.
As far as I can understand it, we agree on the following:
- Trans awareness campaigns lack precision in their targeting, and produce a significant number of false positives i.e. they lead children who would not otherwise identify as trans to erroneously believe themselves to be trans
- Even in jurisdictions in which gender-affirming care for minors is banned, a child who has been socially "affirmed" for years prior to the age of majority is far more likely to seek medical transition as an adult than a child who has not.
I don't really see the difference between the above and the conservative framing of "they're trying to trans my child!" It just seems like a Russell conjugation.
Maybe what you object to is the ascription of intent: that trans activists aren't setting out to make non-trans children erroneously believe that they're trans, that that's just an unfortunate byproduct of a well-intended campaign. But given trans activists' reluctance to even acknowledge the false positives, this seems like a rather pedantic objection in the scheme of things.
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1hr ago
Which seems sensible to me where adults are concerned, children are where I draw the line.
So, in other words, you agree that these "awareness campaigns" targeting children in primary and secondary school are a bad idea?
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1hr ago
New Year's resolution check-in:
- I'm several days behind schedule on my Substack posting. I think I'm a bit depressed and it's causing writer's block.
- Went to the gym three times last week. I can deadlift 1.82x my bodyweight, squat 1.33x and bench press 0.82x.
- Have not consumed any pornography since waking up on January 1st.
How goes it @self_made_human, @thejdizzler, @birb_cromble, @ThomasdelVasto and @falling-star?
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2hr ago
Well, a lot of trans activists (including people in this thread) would disagree with you that "desire" has anything to do with trans identification.
And more's the point – can't people be mistaken about their desires? Have you never thought you wanted something, then realised you didn't really?
The contradiction is that the program seems to be doing a spectacularly poor job at separating wheat from chaff, and that many of the purported signs and symptoms of "being trans" espoused by trans activists (including primary and secondary school teachers) are so broad and ill-defined that they could apply to literally anyone. A medical test which produces false positives at the same rate as true positives is useless. But when it's pointed out to trans activists that their program is producing false positives at an alarmingly high rate, their response is typically not "oh shit, we need to do better" but some variant on "that isn't happening, and it's good that it is".
Eventually people start wondering what the difference is between sufficiently advanced incompetence and malice. I don't agree that "the purpose of a system is what it does", but when trans activists are so resistant to switch up their system even when its shortcomings have been pointed out to them, it does inevitably make one wonder if their stated goal differs from their revealed one.
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2hr ago
If a trans woman gets SRS and has a functional neovagina that she can have sex and orgasm with then she still has genitals that do most of what people use genitals for.
The word "functional" is doing a lot of work, here.
Female genitals are reproductive organs. If they cannot be used for reproduction or any related ancillary functions (e.g. menstruation), we would not typically say they are healthy, functioning organs. Indeed, if a female person is unable to get pregnant or suffers from amenorrhea, that constitutes a health problem. Imagine if a woman went to her GP and said that she'd missed her last three periods but didn't think she was pregnant, and he shrugged and said "but you can still fuck and come, right?" He'd likely be struck off the medical register, and rightfully so.
You can easily use contrived, tortured reasoning like this to "prove" that everyone has a vagina, in the form of their rectum. Your argument proves too much.
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2hr ago
If a person desires to have a limb amputated (which does happen) we accurately assess this to be mental illness.
Not in Canada. Some medics actually were willing to bite the modus ponens (or the modus tollens, I forget which is which.)
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2hr ago
The mother's version of events has not yet been established by a judiciary. I'm guessing there's a lot more to this case that hasn't come out yet.
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2hr ago
phalloplasty (female-to-male) is the same but in the other direction.
This is just flat wrong, and brings your supposed expertise about "gender-affirming care" into question.
You may have noticed that female people have no flesh in between their legs which can be used to fashion a crude imitation of a penis. To accomplish this, surgeons (or "chirurgeons" as you insist on calling them, apparently for no better reason than obfuscation and misdirection) must carve out a chunk of tissue from elsewhere on the patient's body, typically the forearm or thigh. It's similar to a skin graft, except that much more flesh is required, meaning the tiny minority of trans-identified females who undergo phalloplasties have telltale scars on their thighs or forearms for months or years afterwards. Wikipedia has some NSFW photos. So much for "correcting the record".
It may have been a 'poor imitation' a century ago, but much progress has been made; the regret rate for transgender operations is less than that for knee replacements.
Even if it was the case that the majority of trans people who undergo bottom surgery don't regret doing so, that doesn't tell us anything about how poor the imitation is. Even if 100% of people who get breast implants don't regret doing so, that wouldn't tell us anything about how realistic breast implants are. Satisfaction is not perfectly correlated with realism.
the regret rate for transgender operations is less than that for knee replacements.
I've heard so many trans activists independently recite this canard, and they never provide a source. Until one is provided, I'm taking this about as seriously as "trans panic laws have enabled people to literally get away with murder!!!1!"
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2hr ago
I don't think it has anything to do with "better" vs. "worse". I just think the imaginative gap that a lot of people struggle to even get their heads around the hypothetical.
The average person with a net worth of less than a million dollars does not struggle to imagine what it would be like to have a million dollars. The average person who does not live in Germany does not struggle what it would be like to live in Germany. (I'm not even saying their imaginary conceptions of these two counterfactuals are accurate: I'm just saying that most people don't struggle to imagine them, even if their imaginary conception thereof is wrong.) But waking up tomorrow morning as a member of the opposite sex is such a bizarre and alien concept that the average person struggles to get their head around it. I think the average person would have an easier time imagining what it would be like to be blind or paralysed than to imagine what it would be like to wake up as a member of the opposite sex.
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1d ago
I've heard a lot about the Subnautica games. I think the Epic Games Store was once giving away the first one for free and I missed it, still kicking myself.
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1d ago
Absolutely. It's so telling that conspiracy theorists arguing for Oswald as an innocent patsy invariably fail to mention that he had already tried and failed to murder someone (as had Jack Ruby, incidentally) long before the thought of killing JFK ever crossed his mind.
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1d ago
By my count, searches for "Cornell University" last month were 3x searches for "Gisele Pelicot" at their peak: https://trends.google.com/explore?q=%2Fg%2F11w96jzych%2Ccornell%25207%2C%2Fm%2F01w3v&date=today%205-y&geo=Worldwide
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1d ago
Was this intended as an example of a hot male standup?
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2d ago
Looking at Google Trends, Cornell 7's peak visibility was 19x that of the Pelicot case.
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2d ago
Yeah, it's weird that people can assert "relative to their share of the population, black people are underrepresented in Ivy League universities, and this is evidence of racism" and in the next breath assert "the majority of murders in the UK are perpetrated by white Britons".
I would reflexively accuse these people of doublethink, of holding two obviously contradictory ideas in their head at the same time. But actually, I think a lot of these people literally don't understand the meaning of "relative to their share of the population, X group is underrepresented in Y industry". They use it as an empty slogan, a more sophisticated-sounding way of saying "there should be more X people in Y industry". If I were to point out to them that black Britons are in fact overrepresented in British telly, that wouldn't give them pause, they wouldn't think "oh, mission accomplished". They weren't demanding that the demographics of British telly reflect the real demographics of the UK: they just want there to be more black people on the TV. They don't necessarily even understand the idea that "fairness" means that you should see a black character in a TV show set in Britain about as often as you would in real life.
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2d ago
I've heard a lot about Scanners, and of course I've seen that one GIF. May check it out.
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2d ago
Yeah, we were considering watching the show, but I'm not sure how well it could translate, especially given how much of the books are devoted to interiority.
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2d ago
Yup. Used to see it at least a few times a year, although off the top of my head I couldn't tell you the most recent time.
If the best example of a successful and conventionally attractive male standup comedian you can think of is one who achieved his appearance via extensive cosmetic surgery, I think that rather demonstrates my point.
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