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Gheobhaidh mé bás ar an gcnoc seo.
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FtttG
Gheobhaidh mé bás ar an gcnoc seo.
2hr ago
When I said "it's only 4% of your total mental bandwidth", I wasn't referring to your earlier estimation of how many of your comments here pertain to this topic. I was making a calculation based on the content of the preceding sentences.
(0.05 * 0.8 = 0.04)
That's all.
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2hr ago
I have a lot more sympathy with incels than the people who conducted with this study, and have repeatedly argued (here and on the blog) that the panic about incel-motivated violence is completely unfounded. But I do recognise that, along numerous axes, incels are a systematically different demographic from non-incels. The idea that the average man from 1986 would resemble the average incel in 2026 just strikes me as a facially extraordinary claim, and extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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2hr ago
I do not think that publicly humiliating your wife by cheating on her is morally worse than sexually exploiting a minor child. I just think that publicly humiliating your wife by cheating on her is actually really evil, the same as sexually exploiting a minor child.
The way you worded this was really confusing. On its face "publicly humiliating your wife by cheating on her is actually really evil, the same as sexually exploiting a minor child" sounds like it means "publicly humiliating your wife by cheating on her is the same amount of evil as sexually exploiting a minor child". If you meant "publicly humiliating your wife by cheating on her is actually really evil, sexually exploiting a minor child is really evil, but they are not the same amount of evil", that was rather a clumsy way to word it.
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2hr ago
You're taking what I said out of context. I didn't say that this topic occupies a vastly disproportionate share of your mental bandwidth in toto. I said that it occupies a vastly disproportionate share of your mental bandwidth relative to other topics you discuss here. Let's say that, throughout a calendar year, 5% of your mental bandwidth is devoted to the various topics you write about on the Motte, and of that 5%, 80% is devoted to one specific topic. While it's a huge proportion of the mental bandwidth which is devoted to the Motte, it's only 4% of your total mental bandwidth.
Compare that with the singer Paloma Faith, so obsessed with Israel that she says "Free Palestine" to her children every night before they go to sleep. Compare with Robert Graysmith, who admitted that his obsession with unmasking the Zodiac killer led to the collapse of his second marriage. That is obsession. I accused you of nothing of the sort.
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2hr ago
I just think that publicly humiliating your wife by cheating on her is actually really evil, the same as sexually exploiting a minor child.
Okay, if that's your opinion, fair enough. But I'm not interested in pursuing this discussion any further. Sorry to have wasted your time.
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2hr ago
Sure, 3% is the absolute floor of how many in the surveyed sample met all three criteria. But like, come on, it's obviously significantly higher than that.
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2hr ago
I am sceptical. For one thing, I suspect rates of obesity among 2026 incels would be dramatically higher than among 1986 men.
FtttG
Gheobhaidh mé bás ar an gcnoc seo.
2hr ago
Well, you think wrong. I acknowledge that gender ideology occupies a vastly disproportionate share of my mental bandwidth relative to other topics I've written about, and yet no one would characterise me as "obsessed" with this topic in good faith.
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2hr ago
You want me to lose even more social status by spuriously claiming that I am obsessed with the topic.
You complain about me uncharitably putting words in your mouth. Where and when did I accuse you of being "obsessed"?
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2hr ago
I suspect the average incel in 2026 would just be an average man in 1986
What makes you say that?
Let's try to build a profile of the "average incel" in 2026. I found this study from May of last year, which surveyed over 500 American and British incels about their beliefs, identity characteristics, socioeconomic status and so on. It found:
- Roughly 30% had an AQ-10 score that would meet the clinical referall threshold for an autism assessment (compared with the 1% of the population).
- More than one in three met the criteria for moderate depression or anxiety.
- One in five claimed to experience suicidal thoughts nearly every day.
- Half of participants selected the highest response for all three items pertaining to loneliness
- 50% lived with their parents
Do you think the "average man" in 1986 was an autist who lived with his parents and contemplated killing himself every single day?
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3hr ago
Where does more victimization occur: man humiliates his wife and family and company through infidelity; two pedophiles mutually share disturbing digital files between one another?
I don't dispute that there are ways to victimise people which do not contravene any existing laws. If you think publicly humiliating your wife by cheating on her is morally worse than sexually exploiting a minor child (and that the former should be punished under the law a correspondingly harsh amount), than just say that and stop making me play twenty questions.
Do you see now?
No, I do not. Again: I don't want to play twenty questions with you. I want you to express your opinions in plain language, and stop getting so offended when I (reasonably) misinterpret what you're trying to say.
I never said it was absurd.
Yes, you never said it was absurd.
But it would be nice if we could have a discussion that goes beyond namecalling or exasperation that the subject matter is being discussed.
How are we supposed to have such a discussion when you're being so cagey about what the "subject matter" even is?
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3hr ago
We don't know if this is an accurate description of the content, since the text of the law does not require this; it is much, much more broad.
Is it possible that a man arrested for sharing CSAM actually hasn't done anything wrong? Of course. Is my reflexive assumption that a man arrested for sharing CSAM hasn't done anything wrong? No, that would be ridiculous.
do you think the government ought to do this to Jensen Huang for his adultery?
No, because adultery is not a criminal offense, Huang and his mistress were both well in excess of the age of consent (as in, by multiple decades), and no one has even suggested their relationship was anything other than consensual.
Hm. If you can't see the relationship between the laws I'm afraid I don't know how to help you. Maybe you could find a basic analogies book and work through it?
I mean, I know the relationship you want me to see. You want me to think criminalising images and videos of children being sexually exploited is exactly as absurd as criminalising images and videos of adults engaging in consensual sex, fully aware that they are being filmed and that the footage will be distributed. But the former is reasonable and the latter is absurd, for reasons that are apparent to anyone who thinks that children lack the emotional maturity to engage in sexual congress with adults.
I can lead a horse to water but I certainly can't make it drink!
You're misusing this aphorism. "Leading a horse to water" in this context would mean "expressing the belief you hold, and presenting arguments in favour of it"; "making it drink" would mean "making me believe it". You're right that you can't make me share your opinions; you absolutely can express them and argue for them.
You haven't led a horse to water. You haven't explicitly expressed your belief that it's absurd to criminalise images and videos of children being sexually exploited, and made an argument as to why. You're hoping that, if shown a video of a man being arrested, I will automatically arrive at that conclusion on my own, without you putting in the legwork to persuade me.
If you don't want to express your opinions openly for fear of the mods rapping you on the knuckles, fair enough. Just stop acting like my failure to see the parallels you want me to see is evidence of stupidity on my part. I'm not stupid: I just don't agree with you. Not everyone who disagrees with you is an idiot.
Do you think the government is acting reasonably here?
Do I think the government is acting reasonably by arresting a man who shared images of children being sexually abused? Is this a trick question?
You do see the connection though, right?
Afraid not.
I'm such a broad and multifaceted writer calling this a hobbyhorse is little more than a veiled slur
Not at all. It's entirely possible for a person to write about a range of topics, and yet one of these consumes a disproportionate share of their mental bandwidth, they are far more emotionally invested in it than in any of the others, it raises their hackles more etc.. I imagine for just about every regular poster here, the topics that interest them follow a Pareto distribution, with 20% of the topics consuming 80% of their mental bandwidth. I write about a range of topics, and yet if someone were to claim that the absurdity of gender ideology is my hobby horse (or at least one of them), I could hardly dispute that.
Likewise with you. While you do write about other topics and participate in discussions about other topics, there is one specific topic that occupies a vastly disproportionate share of your mental bandwidth.
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8hr ago
New Year's resolution check-in:
- Posted my twenty-fourth article of the year last Friday, adapted from a comment I posted here last December about The Last Psychiatrist, narcissism and "identifying as" a morally upstanding person. Special thanks to @gog (whose summary of TLP's opinions I quoted at length, for context) and @FiveHourMarathon (who correctly pointed out that the examples in my comment were disproportionately left-coded, despite the phenomenon I was describing being a bipartisan one; I took this criticism onboard).
- Went to the gym three times last week. I can deadlift 1.82x my bodyweight, squat 1.33x and bench press 0.82x.
- Have not consumed any pornography since waking up on January 1st.
How goes it @self_made_human, @thejdizzler, @birb_cromble and @ThomasdelVasto?
FtttG
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10hr ago
I think your description is true of most femcels and some male incels. However, I think the number of men with whom literally no woman in the entire world would voluntarily have sex with under any circumstances is greater than zero. I doubt a woman meeting that description exists.
FtttG
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10hr ago
From the first result of the search results page linked above. Obviously these photos are heavily filtered, but even so it seems the establishment employs a fair amount of "would"s. ("Would have sex with", I mean, not "would pay for".)
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10hr ago
Police violently raid man's house over secretly turned over Kik chats from 4 months prior containing CSAM
... am I meant to be sympathising with the arrestee here?
The top-level was about the UK criminalising certain types of pornography depicting consenting adults. You seem to have taken the thread in a rather different direction, and alas that direction is also one of your preferred hobby horses.
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10hr ago
Well, of course when you compare a junkie at his worst to an anime nerd at his best, the latter is bound to come out on top.
FtttG
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11hr ago
I argued exactly this at length in the OP. Right down to calling out trans activists for how often they deploy this tactic.
FtttG
Gheobhaidh mé bás ar an gcnoc seo.
1d ago
In fairness, porn stars are selected for attractiveness and ability in the bedroom. They are not selected for acting ability, except in so far as faking an orgasm is a kind of acting. In porn with any kind of story, I imagine some people find the dialogue-heavy parts immersion-breaking.
FtttG
Gheobhaidh mé bás ar an gcnoc seo.
1d ago
If you want mechanical gratification, that can be had for free.
Are you talking about casual sex, or masturbation?
FtttG
Gheobhaidh mé bás ar an gcnoc seo.
1d ago
Most junkies strike me as happier and more self-actualised than the modal anime/DnD nerd. In a weird way I respect their lifestyle – I just have no interest in subsidising it.
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1d ago
Grist for the mill for my conspiracy theory that China is pushing incest porn as part of a broader effort to promote dysgenic behaviour in the West.
I've been meaning to check him out for awhile. Any particular ones you'd recommend?
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