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FtttG

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I started playing the Resident Evil 2 remake the other day. It's pretty cool. I like how it has the over-the-shoulder gameplay of Resident Evil 4 but paired with the extreme vulnerability and limited ammo capacity of the earlier games.

My wife and I are about halfway through SOMA.

If you want an example of an edgy (no, legitimately shocking) SNL monologue, Louis CK has got you covered. From a comment posted two days ago:

Whenever there’s outrage over an SNL monologue, I come back to this one. Riskiest bit I think I’ve ever seen

You said:

We all know full well boners are not CW material because the CW thread has never had a boner thread.

You did not claim that there has never been a boner joke top-level post in the CW . You said that there has never been a boner top-level post. I provided you with several examples of top-level posts which mention erections prominently.

You can't move the goalposts like this then complain about people "gaslighting" you.

Congratulations!

We all know full well boners are not CW material because the CW thread has never had a boner thread.

It is really not difficult to find examples of top-level posts in the CW thread which mention erections:

I really do not understand what I've done to earn this kind of hostility. Relax.

Absolutely. Hypothetically, there could be a 10/10 woman out there who is exactly as funny as Jordan Jensen. We would never hear about her. Why would she bother to pursue a gruelling career in standup when she could marry a Saudi prince and never have to work a day in her life?

In other words, they're only willing to "transgress" against soft socially-sanctioned targets, which is the opposite of transgression. "Safe edgy" is no such thing.

I was actually thinking about that Hitch essay while writing this comment.

I agree that Wexler is hot, although does she actually make a living from standup? I was under the impression that was just one string to her bow. From her social media presence she seems to rather aggressively market herself as an "anti-woke" comedian, which suggests that her material is more based around "owning the libs" clapter than actual comedic material.

Thanks for the tip, it seems they're not accepting submissions at the moment.

TV Tropes has more information. See "Aluminium Christmas Trees" on the YMMV page.

At least one person thought he was doing a bit, performing an elaborate parody of a Reddit wokescold. But it seems he was quite serious.

I think you're putting words in the mods' mouths. From the linked comment, I can't see anything even resembling the sentiment "jokes about erections literally do not qualify as jokes".

Is it? Doesn't feel like it.

Every time I ask a friend what they like about a girl they just started seeing, something creative comes up.

Dare I say this effect might be contaminated by social desirability bias? "I like her because she's so creative" sounds a great deal less crass than "I like her because she has cracking tits and she's great in bed".

Even then, no one's debating that, ceteris paribus, creative people are more interesting to talk to. The point is, your friends aren't dating these women because they're creative. Your friends never would've asked these women out had they not found them physically attractive: physical attraction is the rule-in criterion, "being creative" is just gravy.

Additionally: your theory predicts female rockstars should be mid, but that's not what I see?

Maybe I'm overgeneralising from my personal experience + the most famous female rockstars. Dublin's post-punk scene exploded in popularity over the last decade, including a handful of female musicians, and I genuinely cannot think of even one that I would call more attractive than mid. Any list of the greatest female rockstars in history is bound to include Janis Joplin and Patti Smith, neither of whom were anything to write home about in terms of looks even at their peaks. Stevie Nicks, not bad-looking but hardly a knockout. I'll grant that Debbie Harry was a legitimate stunner.

I know. It depresses me that the denizens of that sub were willing to take that principle to its logical conclusion, surrendering even subjective aesthetic judgements to the "experts".

Excellent. I also forgot he had that one bit about Back to the Future.

On the other hand, the odds of fucking the person interviewing you at the end of the interview are negligible.

I know, I know, "skill issue", "not with that attitude".

There's the old saying "half of success is just showing up", the insight of which I didn't appreciate until I started trying to book gigs for my band. I suspect a major (and underrated) factor in becoming a successful comedian is temperament. Being a successful comedian means going on tour for large chunks of the year and not seeing your family and loved ones for months at a time. It means working late and sleeping in during the day. It probably means drinking a lot more than the average person would. It means being exceptionally thick-skinned (like customer service, standup is a rare profession in which complete strangers feel entitled to interrupt you mid-sentence and insult you to your face; unlike customer service, they're drunk more often than not while they do so). It means turning in an engaging, high-energy performance regardless of whether you're hungover, sleep-deprived, jet-lagged or all three. And like every entertainment career, it means doing for this minimal (and variable) reward for many years until you get something going.

Few people are cut out for this lifestyle. I'd hazard a guess that successful standups are those that trend above-average in g, and who have the kind of temperament where the lifestyle described above appeals to them.

Now this really seems like moving the goalposts. First you claim that Shane Gillis didn't do well in school and would score poorly in a verbal IQ test. Then I point out to you that he actually holds an undergraduate degree, and the claim becomes "yeah but not from an elite institution though". And @roystgnr claims that Westchester is a middling college (and cites a source), rather than one of the lowest-ranked institutions in the country.

You had to go all the way back to look at Monty Python

I didn't, actually. Mitchell and Webb's careers started in the 2000s, as did John Mulaney's. Monty Python was the first example that popped into my head, but I cited several others from both sides of the pond.

so where are all the Ivy-educated high IQ comedians?

Here's a few. Also, per his Wikipedia page, Gillis holds a history degree from Westchester University. I'm not American so I don't know how prestigious that is, but he seems to be a lot more book-smart than you're giving him credit for.

What goalposts am I moving?

And just because these comedians aren't famous outside of the US doesn't mean I don't follow standup closely.

Iliza Shlesinger, Sarah Silverman, Nikki Glaser, Whitney Cummings, Kelsey Cook, Taylor Tomlinson, Maddy Kelly

I've only heard of half of these. Even in her prime Silverman was mid, as far as I'm concerned. Tomlinson is about as good-looking as Maggie Gyllenhaal, so not bad-looking by any means, but I wouldn't hold my breath for the start of her modelling career. Kelly I would also consider mid. I'll grant Whitney Cummings, Kelsey Cook and Iliza Shlesinger. "Three" seems numerically equivalent to "essentially zero".

Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Kaitlin Olson

Granted, but I'd consider them both more comic actresses than comedians, and I addressed the point about standup vs. comedic acting in the upper post.

Tina Fey

Mid even in her prime.

Veronika Slowikowska

Mid.

Ashley Padilla

Mid.

Jane Curtin

Mid, even in her prime.

To be maximally pedantic, Terry Jones's education into medieval history proved invaluable when they were writing Holy Grail, to the point that it's sometimes been called one of the most historically accurate films with a medieval setting.

But in general, yes, I don't think having a piece of paper with a 2:1 on it helped any of them in their careers. I took @coffee_enjoyer's point to be that talented comedians tend not to be "book-smart", and hence that comedic talent is orthogonal to g. And I think it's trivial to demonstrate that that isn't true: there have been plenty of talented comedians who were at least book-smart enough to complete a humanities degree.

The latter two are fine, although I would be a bit more vague and say something like "I love classical music". If you can play an instrument, even better.