WhiningCoil
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I think what's most fascinating about Blusky, is it's the only case I know of where the lefties were exiled (well, self exiled) from a supposedly "neutral" platform. Every other time it ever happened, it was because the TOS or the Trust & Safety teams came down like a brick of shit on their right wing political opposition. This caused two things. When the people who got banned went to voat.co or gab or where ever, it concentrated things and made them look even crazier than they seemed before, making the right as a whole look kind of unhinged. The second thing it did was further entrench leftism as the "default". It's just being a good persontm.
Twitter going the opposite direction has been seismic in pushing back against both. The overton window has expanded to include more rightwing thoughts, and now the left is over on Blusky acting completely unhinged.
This is the core of it. The activist in charge of enforcing this will consider everything conversion therapy. I think 10 years ago Jesse Singal covered a case like this in Canada. There was a gender clinic where the doctor simply let little girls and boys know "Hey, you can like boy things as a girl, and it doesn't mean you are a boy", and he was accused of conversion therapy and his clinic was shut down. Activist found someone willing to make much more lurid accusations against him, but then when Jesse Singal found that guy, and asked him about his experiences, it turned out it was a completely different doctor!
Rest assured, if this law stands, any course of treatment which fails to maximize trans outcomes will be considered "conversion therapy". I wouldn't be shocked if it even impacts de-trans individuals seeking care, as their doctors won't be able to provide "conversion therapy" to help them return to their natal sex, as best as is still available anyways.
When we got a dog, and had it professionally trained, they used a shock collar. They also gave use the shock collar, and instructed us on it's use. It was really helpful training the dog to stop jumping on people, because it scared our daughter so badly she was hesitant to come out of her room if the dog was around. Later on, when we got a geofenced collar, it's also a shock collar. Basically an invisible fence collar, except it uses a GPS instead of a buried wire.
Now that I think about, everyone I knew with well trained dogs has them on shock collars. But maybe that's regional or social bubble related.
You actually see a lot of cop ambushes. Because you don't need to murder them in their sleep when you can literally call them out to you.
Police officers across U.S. face crisis as ambush shootings rise: "It just happened out of nowhere"
Fact of the matter is, policing in Democrat controlled areas is fucked. When they aren't being ambushed and murdered, politicians are throwing them under the bus, or to the wolves, and recruitment has completely collapsed. Nobody wants to police Democrat controlled areas with politicians literally putting targets on their back. I wouldn't pretend everything is all hunky dory in the land of policing.
"Muh masks" seems to have become a meme here, but it's real. You're Americans, why are you okay being cucked by your government. Masked non-uniformed men are stuffing people into vans. Not just that, they're sending them to third world prisons??? That's insane. Obviously it's nowhere near as bad as the NKVD, but why are you okay taking even a step in that direction? What if the Democrats spin up the "super ATF" who start kidnapping people who fuck up their gun paperwork into unmarked vans to be sent to Romania? Government overreach is bad, period.
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Unlike Judges and Prosecutors which are a small, relatively cloistered group if need be, ICE is the law enforcement front line. And there is an active threat to dox and murder them. Sure you can prosecute the people who do, but it doesn't un-murder the husbands and fathers.
If it happens, I think the "origins" would date back to the Obama administration and his intelligence community framing Trump for crimes they knew he didn't commit to derail his administration. Virtually everything is downwind of that.
If I were to pick an inciting incident, I'm torn between the failed assassination attempt on Trump, and the successful assassination attempt on Kirk. Maybe you can't separate them, because with the attempt on Trump you could kind of trick yourself into thinking "Maybe this will stop, maybe we can go back to normal", and with the assassination of Charlie Kirk you knew beyond all doubt that was impossible. They're never going to stop.
It's less that I think "White Dudes" or variations there-of are in any way equivalent to dropping a hard-R gamer word. It's more, I sometimes can't believe the amount of hate and vitriol leftist are able to pour into their enunciation of that word. On paper you'd never imagine it's possible.
It is like they are trying to somehow say "white dudes" with a Hard-R if you know what I mean. On paper it sounds neutral, but they way they say it...
I mean, sure, but also, how retarded were we when it happened?
This was a conversation he had when he was already a sitting state representative, with another sitting state representative for the opposite political party.
There are private conversations... and then there are conversations that are conceivably FOIA'able, and this, if not the latter, is really fucking close to it. To say nothing of it just being fucking stupid. In a world where "private conversation" summons up the image of signal chats being leaked, or pre-political career SMS messages or group chats, this is about as far away from that as possible, while still, maybe, and only maybe, being covered by the umbrella of "private conversation".
Circle of equals! All the legislators form a circle, and the two have to fight it out bare handed until one submits.
For a Democrat to get the same benefit in a primary election they'd have to also tie it to some issue (anti-capitalism? pro-gun-bans?) where their base is afraid of them selling out
Off the top of my head, medicare for all, releasing the Epstein files, and student loan forgiveness are "traitor" issues to the left. Medicare for all especially, and to this day Jimmy Dore can't let go how much he got smeared by "sell outs" for his force the vote initiative. Epstein files I can't tell how deep or sincere the sentiment goes. Student Loan forgiveness being a traitor issue revolves around this theory that the Biden admin purposely chose the weakest legal theory to argue in favor of it, and lost on purpose in the Supreme Court. Once again, I don't know how widespread or sincere this sentiment is.
The Democrats lost young men to the party of, “hold still for your mugshot before you watch Riley Reid take her clothes off.”
Alternately, young men have been using VPNs to protect their identity from liberal attempts to make their life worse for so long, the fact that now VPNs are useful to get around conservative porn blocks is a non-issue. The friction was caused under the far left cancellation hysteria.
Did any young man actually save their professional life by buying a VPN? Unlikely. But lots of the advertising catered to that fear, and thus they were purchased with that in mind.
It's really weird to me that more than one person here honestly came away thinking it was just a The Office joke?
Now that I'm seeing more news networks pick up this story, if they aren't going full "Republicans pounce after Jay Jones 'alleged' comments", they are leading with the joke, omitting everything else, and then including his apology. I imagine people who still trust the media are reading their trusted sources that lie by omission, charge into this thread thinking they are informed, skim my top post, and then blast out the ignorant rebuttal they've been primed to make.
As of now, no Democrat has pulled their endorsement of him, I saw one single local Democrat say he would stop campaigning with him, several groups have actively reaffirmed his endorsement still saying he's somehow better than your generic Republican.
WP:
The comments were made public by National Review in October 2025 during Jones' campaign for Attorney General, and received bipartisan condemnation, including by fellow Democratic nominees Abigail Spanberger and Ghazala Hashmi.
In particular, Spanberger said:
I made clear to Jay that he must fully take responsibility for his words. While Hashmi said: Jay must take accountability for the pain that his words have caused. We must demand better of our leaders and of each other.
There is a slight of hand here I want to address. I said no Democrat (minus one) has pulled their endorsement. This remains true, even with Democrats saying he really shouldn't have said those things. Despite the condemnation of his words, they still endorse the person for the position he's running for.
and approximately zero chance of being caught and punished for it
Well I mean, given that he's running for AG, he gets to decide by a large degree who gets caught and faces punishment for what. And we've seen AG's use a lot of "discretion" in this regard. And so the question is, after statements like these, is there even a fig leaf of equal protection under the law?
Norm Macdonald Voice Note to self: When I write my manifesto, open with a joke.
"inciting genocide (what a pogrom is)"
Perhaps you should read the previous comment of mine I posted about how pogroms are not the same as genocide. Not ever, not once, not in any historical context. Pogroms have very low fatality counts compared to genocide. They are not organized. They are a roiling low level amount of violence against an ethnic group that the state alternates between turning a blind eye to, giving slaps on the wrist over, and occasionally inflaming with their rhetoric and permissiveness. The goal is to get the ethnic group to be demoralized, be too fearful to participate in public life, and at best straight up leave.
Democrats are absolutely capable of that. Arguably you see it already in many Democrat run cities.
Yes, he said "Three people, two bullets. Gilbert, hitler, and pol pot. Gilbert gets two bullets to the head"
You really are committed to just ignoring all the rest that he said, huh? Just constantly repeating for the people who won't read for themselves this lie by omission that all he said was a joke.
it could just be 'bants'. maybe he is just venting to a friend and there is some context that is snipped from the conversation that we see that makes it less bad.
It could be, but it's not.
A DM conversation "leaked" where in he has this conversation with a Republican colleage in the Virginia House I believe. So this wasn't even exactly an "in house" conversation. Just straight up telling the opposition, "Hey, I think you deserve to die" like it would never or could never come back to haunt him.
Believe it or not, you are not the first person grasping at this straw.
Keep. Reading.
You don't get to read the first thing he says, go "Sounds benign to me", and then ignore the rest of the truly horrific and sober thoughts he put down.
You were talking about hoping Jennifer Gilbert's children would die.
Yes, I've told you this before. Only when people feel pain personally do they move on policy.
I mean do I think Todd and Jennifer are evil? And that they're breeding little fascist? Yes.
Such a punchline. Much LOL.
He's stone cold serious when he says these things. He's doing political calculus that dead Republicans help his policy goals because they oppose him.
Yes, Democrats Really Do Want You Dead
Some people have already put the Charlie Kirk assassination into the memory box. For others it still feel terrifyingly relavent. The initial shock at the cheers and jubulant celebration at his gruesome public execution has faded slightly. The public square dominated by Democratic figures and Never Trumpers invoking some fraudulent both sidesism has, like it or not, dulled some of the public backlash. And honestly, the compulsive conspiracy theorist on the right hasn't helped maintain moral clarity in the wake of his murder either.
You may remember, I've talked before about the casual genocidal bloodlust the average Northern VA Democrat has based on the time I lived there. And while Democrats, for now, seem to have enough message discipline to not get on CNN and openly say "Yes, Republicans deserve to be murdered", their line is just shy of that incredibly low bar. Enter Jay Jones.
He's been caught essentially laying out the case that Republicans should be shot and killed, and their children murdered in front of them, so that they change their politics. A DM conversation "leaked" where in he has this conversation with a Republican colleage in the Virginia House I believe. So this wasn't even exactly an "in house" conversation. Just straight up telling the opposition, "Hey, I think you deserve to die" like it would never or could never come back to haunt him.
As of now, no Democrat has pulled their endorsement of him, I saw one single local Democrat say he would stop campaigning with him, several groups have actively reaffirmed his endorsement still saying he's somehow better than your generic Republican. His brazen assertion that you should kill even the children too, because "they are breeding little fascist" is probably a huge hit in Northern VA. Finally someone who openly talks and thinks like they do. I've seen those exact words on the NOVA subreddit every day. He's very likely to have top legal authority over me and my children, whom he believes deserve to die.
I'm gonna be honest, I'm fairly distressed over this. This is how Pogroms work. In the famed Jewish Pogroms of 1881, 40 Jews were killed leading to a mass emigration from Russia. I wonder if we'll hit that number in Virginia the next 4 years. I fully expect my deep red rural county that's been electorally attached through gerrymandering to Fairfax will be aggressively "enriched" as punishment for voting wrong.
Curiously enough, I've been reading the Old Testament.
Uh... I'm doing a lot of noticing. Like the entire story is just Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and then Joseph ingratiating themselves with wealthy and powerful people, then running off with all their shit. Possibly their daughters. Joseph really takes the cake, where he convinces the Pharaoh to tax his people exorbitantly, and then sells their grains back to them at such insane prices, they have to sell themselves into slavery to him in order to not starve. But you know, they're happy to do so. That's what the book says after all. So anyways, the next book starts with the Egyptians unjustly turning on Joseph and his clan as soon as the Pharaoh dies and they lose his protection, for some reason.
Like, bronze age morality, I get it, Odysseus is quite the scoundrel too and he's still a hero. But, uh... that is the single most Jewish origin story I could possibly imagine. Like if the most antisemitic person you'd ever heard of tried to write a story about where the Jews came from, I'm not sure he'd do it any different. And that's the first book and change of Moses.
Anyways...the bronze age, amirite?
A slicing motion as opposed to a scraping motion.
Like "reverse racism" is just racism, "inverse Witch Problem" just means the left did, in fact, have a Witch Problem. It's not a different thing.
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